Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[Matthew4444]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Nothing game-breaking though.

I guess to stop Snake from recovering, you'll have to grab his recovery thing in midair.

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Nothing game-breaking though.

I guess to stop Snake from recovering, you'll have to grab his recovery thing in midair.

Grab it?

[Afrobean]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GRATNm...eature=related

useful tech with snake. He can recover from ANYWHERE.

Not if he kills himself... like he did in that video.

ps sorry i dont pay good attention, but is "tech" some kind of euphemism for "glitch abuse"?

[l2awr]

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Not if he kills himself... like he did in that video.

ps sorry i dont pay good attention, but is "tech" some kind of euphemism for "glitch abuse"?

Maybe its short for the word TECHNIQUE???

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

I'm not getting into this, other than saying anyone who think throwing grenades at oneself to prolong a match is pretty ****ing retarded. If you were knocked off the stage, chances are you're already over 70% already, so a grenade isn't going to help you much thar. And I can't see a practical use for that infinite jump glitch with Bowser. Not only that, but anyone you use that against would call foul. Immediately.

technique: "A pattern of movement that is technically appropriate for a particular skill and is an integral part, but not the whole part of that skill."

glitches: "In video games, a glitch is a term used by players to indicate a programming error which results in behavior not intended by the programmers. ... The practice of exploiting glitches in video games is known as 'glitching.'"

Dictionaries already defined the term, bro. Catch up on the times.

In REAL news, this game, despite its previous incarnation being one of the lesser-selling games in Japan on the gamecube, has already sold one million copies, making it the fastest-selling game on the Wii. How about them apples?

[l2awr]

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I'm not getting into this, other than saying anyone who think throwing grenades at oneself to prolong a match is pretty ****ing retarded. If you were knocked off the stage, chances are you're already over 70% already, so a grenade isn't going to help you much thar. And I can't see a practical use for that infinite jump glitch with Bowser. Not only that, but anyone you use that against would call foul. Immediately.

In REAL news, this game, despite its previous incarnation being one of the lesser-selling games in Japan on the gamecube, has already sold one million copies, making it the fastest-selling game on the Wii. How about them apples?

ps - technique: "A pattern of movement that is technically appropriate for a particular skill and is an integral part, but not the whole part of that skill."

glitches: "In video games, a glitch is a term used by players to indicate a programming error which results in behavior not intended by the programmers. ... The practice of exploiting glitches in video games is known as 'glitching.'"

Dictionaries already defined the term, bro. Catch up on the times.

How is living retarded? lol!

Also how would you know if these are intended by the programmers? You don't and never will. Get with reality.

[Squeek]

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Oh yeah I can see Sakurai going "hey we should make it so only one character can jump forever that sounds cool right? we just won't tell anyone shhhh"

The grenade thing isn't a glitch. It's actually legitimate. It's just stupid. I can't imagine a situation where flying up with the camera would not save you, yet a grenade dropped at an opportune time would. If you were sent flying so far off the stage that your up+b wouldn't get you back up, you'd die from the explosion of the grenade.

BECAUSE IT'S A GRENADE.

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Oh yeah I can see Sakurai going "hey we should make it so only one character can jump forever that sounds cool right? we just won't tell anyone shhhh"

The grenade thing isn't a glitch. It's actually legitimate. It's just stupid. I can't imagine a situation where flying up with the camera would not save you, yet a grenade dropped at an opportune time would. If you were sent flying so far off the stage that your up+b wouldn't get you back up, you'd die from the explosion of the grenade.

BECAUSE IT'S A GRENADE.

the grenade is so you can UP B AGAIN. The only way you can die is if you are knocked out or **** up the grenade thing. If you are saying that living is useless then this is one game you won't be good at, sorry.

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

...

Did you even watch the video?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A GRENADE IS.

"A grenade is an incendiary device capable of expelling shrapnel at thousands of feet per second."

Suffice to say, it's a miniature BOMB.

Link has bombs. Link's in Melee. Go turn it on, pluck out a bomb, and throw it at yourself. See if you cause any damage. See if it moves you.

Like I said before. If you were knocked off the stage at 70% or more and dropped a GRENADE on yourself, the explosion from the grenade is going to kill you more often than not.

And not only that, each explosion is nicking off 20%+ MORE. So you have even less chance of doing anything worthwhile if you do happen to catch a lucky explosion from a pretty random source like a grenade and land back on stage.

[korny]

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If you are saying that living is useless then this is one game you won't be good at, sorry.

It's safe to assume he won't get good at this game anyway.

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

It's safe to assume he won't get good at this game anyway.

Not good in the sense that I need to exploit glitches to compete one on one on Final Destination with items turned off with either Marth, Fox, or Falco, no.

[korny]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Awww he's still holding a grudge against his incapabilities and thinks that people need to use glitches to show him how much skill he lacks. How sad

[Matthew4444]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Grab it?

Yes. If you grab that spycam thing, it disappears and Snake falls, without any hope for recovery since he can't up+b again. Well, maybe he can, if you sacrifice 20% to use a grenade.


And regarding the ridiculousness of recovering through the use of grenades to the face: "In this world, trophies fight!" Clearly human logic need not apply. The idea actually becomes feasible though once you treat them as indestructible objects.

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Yes. If you grab that spycam thing, it disappears and Snake falls, without any hope for recovery since he can't up+b again. Well, maybe he can, if you sacrifice 20% to use a grenade.


And regarding the ridiculousness of recovering through the use of grenades to the face: "In this world, trophies fight!" Clearly human logic need not apply. The idea actually becomes feasible though once you treat them as indestructible objects.

I would sacrifice any % to live and have the chance to do more damage to my opponent or even kill him before I lose that stock. Thats just common sense.

[Afrobean]

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Awww he's still holding a grudge against his incapabilities and thinks that people need to use glitches to show him how much skill he lacks. How sad

I have never heard of a wide competition that didn't require glitch abuse to do well in it. Please, show me a "well" known competitive player in a fight that doesn't involve abusing errors of design (and is also not played before said glitch abuses were discovered).

Now, how can you say that Squeek isn't good at the game just because he doesn't play by silly rules like "Final Destination only" or "no items" or "Fox only"? It would be one thing if you had seen him play or something, but the fact is that you haven't. As far as skill that is not built on abusing errors in programming, I'd guess that Squeek would be more than adequate. True, I'd bet that he'd get stomped by people who, to put it bluntly, cheat, but who cares? They're playing outside the boundaries of the game, and as such, a claim of having skill at a game due to cheating is null in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who uses glitches to their advantage is no better than your common "hacker" (read: script kiddie) in any MMO. By using the logic of "everyone else is doing it, so it's ok"... well, just go to any MMO community and see how that logic flies in the face of other kinds of cheaters.

Incidentally, I really hope there is some means that will allow me to play online without getting stomped by cheaters (maybe having 2 separate multiplayer lobbies for "competitive" ie glitch abusers, and "casual" for players like me who would rather play the game as it was meant to be played). I'm fine to be beaten by people who are simply better than me, but being beaten by cheaters is just lame, even if those cheaters would have still beat me without cheating.