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  • jimerax
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Nov 2003
    • 8185

    #181
    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

    yeah wave filter sometimes works, but sometimes doesn't.
    basically I trust my ears over eyes, so it's just my personal method maybe.

    didn't notice the function of changing the volume of assist tick, that would be convenient.

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    • jyris1
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2006
      • 133

      #182
      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

      Yes, I find myself trusting my ears a lot as well.

      Since were on this topic, One thing has to be made clear:

      IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT TRUSTING YOUR EARS IN DDREAM (as of v. 1.50)

      EDIT: I have revised the material and put it on the DDReam tutorial page.



      Read the section called "HOW TO TEST YOUR COMPUTER TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN DDREAM NICELY (as of version 1.50)"
      Last edited by jyris1; 04-13-2009, 07:50 PM.
      I designed ddreamstudio.
      The FFR Community has kindly compiled a ddreamstudio guide/downloads here-> http://goo.gl/nq5Ad

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      • Wineandbread
        Custom User Title
        • Oct 2007
        • 2105

        #183
        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

        Is there still space left? I'd like to join as a student.
        Originally posted by Gundam-Dude
        my semen is flying through the air as we speak
        We climb up a lot of ladders, and fall down a lot of chutes.

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        Keep it real pls. Will deny requests I cannot manage.


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        • gnr61
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 7251

          #184
          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

          lolol oblivion is not an easy song to step well jeez
          it will be great for highlighting everyone's specific styles though because it can be interpreted in a million ways.
          homework is due tuesday before class by the way everyone : )
          squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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          • t-rogdor
            tane orb
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jun 2007
            • 2685

            #185
            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

            Okay, if i take this assignment seriously and don't joke around (read: Actually try) Could you try to take me seriously for once?
            Originally posted by cetaka
            I saw a flyer on a bulletin board at school asking for high-functioning aspergers/autism people to participate in some kind of experiment, and all I could think was, that sounds like a great place to meet girls.

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            • ducky285
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2005
              • 1388

              #186
              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

              Originally posted by kommisar[os]
              holy **** its ducky
              holy **** it's kommisar

              yeah, I've been out of the loop for a while. I guess I can give some expert advice even though I never open SM anymore.
              Quack quack quack

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              • TC_llama499
                Resident Rock Climber
                • Feb 2008
                • 1573

                #187
                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                ok im stuck on my file i cant think of anything else to put in it, its just getting repetitive. anyone want to take a look at it? its pretty bad as of now haha

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                • omgitznpv
                  cohoooooon
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 6980

                  #188
                  Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                  uh if it's the same thing being played over and over again randomly changing or adding things to it isn't really a good idea most of the time

                  so don't step repetitive stuff (kinda given)
                  Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                  What's the point of using drugs anyways? I heard they help you relax but that's pretty much it. (Not talking about medicines)

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                  • i hate you
                    FFR Player
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 36

                    #189
                    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                    I'll like to join as a student please

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                    • t-rogdor
                      tane orb
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2685

                      #190
                      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                      Alright. I have my first draft of Kommi's assignment somewhat finished. Could i get one of you not professors who is a decent stepper to look over it real Quick?

                      Just message me on AIM.
                      Originally posted by cetaka
                      I saw a flyer on a bulletin board at school asking for high-functioning aspergers/autism people to participate in some kind of experiment, and all I could think was, that sounds like a great place to meet girls.

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                      • xferrarix
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1091

                        #191
                        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                        yo i wanna be a tutor/student gogogo
                        Last edited by xferrarix; 04-12-2009, 03:22 PM.
                        sigpic

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                        • TC_Halogen
                          Rhythm game specialist.
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 19376

                          #192
                          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                          Sent in my assignment. Probably flunked the hell out of it. Dx

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                          • dood gone krazee
                            RATOOOOOOOOO
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2007
                            • 1939

                            #193
                            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                            ****tt I hope someone recorded that semenar I just got home and I need help on layering. :[[[[[[

                            EDIT: oh k
                            Last edited by dood gone krazee; 04-12-2009, 08:04 PM.
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                            Originally posted by robertsona
                            I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                            "[++] 9/10
                            Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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                            • gnr61
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 7251

                              #194
                              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                              its ok, kommi wasn't on so i couldn't mute the channel and thus couldn't talk much anyway. here are my lecture notes turned into complete sentences

                              Definition of hands
                              -In spread-style file making (what we are doing), using the term "hands" is a bit of an obvious misnomer as it refers to the ITG-style pad steps that require you to use your hands to hit notes because your feet are otherwise occupied. Unfortunately, it is convenient and it has kind of stuck over the years, so I will continue to call them such except in specific references to triples or quads.
                              -The term "hands" refers to 3 or more simultaneously hit notes and more rarely jumps/triples hit while holding a freeze.

                              First step in learning to use hands
                              -DONT be afraid to use hands. FFR-steppers especially. While it is possible to overuse hands (depending on their musical context), we play spread. Hands are quite often the best possible way to represent something in the music, whether simply adhering to whatever layering theory you are currently using or choosing to apply them for climactic purposes.

                              When hands are appropriate (layering)
                              -The simplest description of when to use hands when layering is obviously when three or more sounds (that you are currently following or would otherwise intend to follow) coincide simultaneously. Using triples for this purpose is generally acceptable and is the most common application of hands in spread stepping. If it just pains and pains and pains you to think that there may be a consistency and/or layering error in your simfile, or even if you just want to maintain the best technical representation of your song that you can, layering theory is usually a fair bet to be successful at placing hands.

                              When hands are appropriate (climax theory)
                              -Another approach to placing hands is in climax theory. Quite simply, climax theory (in this particular use of the phrase) describes the placement of jumps, triples, and quads on accented notes. In doing this, there does NOT necessarily have to be three sounds occurring at once; in fact, its pretty much acceptable to place hands on especially intense drum hits (PSH sounds in dnb, for instance, see: crow's ghost) or melody notes whether or not they are technically layered in with 2+ other sounds. If you are the kind of stepper who only likes to leave 1.0x when absolutely necessary and is more interested in the "feel" of the file rather than what dondon would think, this kind of application suits you well. Note that this and layering theory are not mutually exclusive, it is usually best to find a balance of using both while stepping.

                              When hands are appropriate (chords)
                              -It is also acceptable to place triples or quads on chords in the music played by one instrument. If you are following a piano or guitar and you feel like you know what you are doing when it comes to picking out chords, feel free to place hands where appropriate even if they don't necessarily fit according to your layering (see: Puppet's Demolizione).

                              When hands are INappropriate (layering)
                              -When following several instruments that coincide in a way that would form hands if you stick with layering theory, it is always best to have some notion of climax theory rolling in the back of your mind. Pretty much I just mean if you are layering something gay like a hi-hat or other quieter percussion, it is not always best to make them hands. A jump including a note in the lead and a snare shouldn't feel much different from one including a note in the lead, a snare, and a hi-hat; adding an extra note to the jump is too abrasive and even feels inconsistent.

                              Keysounding hands
                              -An older technique of hand placement involves placing hands on specific (usually percussive) tones regardless of intensity or layering presence, usually on cymbal crashes. See: Puppet's OTAKUSPEEDVIBE.

                              Triples aesthetic (brief note, ver subjective)
                              -The more spread out/symmetrical hands, [124] and [134] typically are nicer looking by themselves than [123] and [234] hands and fit best in most situations; exceptions obviously occur often when the others are required for purposes of flow or specific pitch representation (or in larger chains of hands where you need variation). If you play through most of my DCP files you will find that a significant majority of the triples I use are [124] and [134], though you probably wouldn't even notice while playing because they just work well on that subconscious level.

                              Quads (super brief overview)
                              -Quads are significantly different from triples despite being only one note larger because they require you to press all 4 inputs at once--leaving no room for relevance in terms of pitch and disallowing them from being worked into any kind of stream pattern without forming jacks. This alone makes quads difficult to implement successfully using the straight layering method, and I typically advocate using them only for climactic purposes. The more sparsely you use them, the more climactic impact they will have by the way.

                              Quads defy typical layering to positive effect
                              -Konono no nanatsu no oiwaini, m29
                              -Thunderclap, m30

                              Quads follow typical layering to negative effect
                              -Drove through ghosts to get here, m64+ (not necessarily a negative effect, its just a more experimental approach that i find damaging to the flow but some others enjoy)
                              -Open Your Mind, m31+
                              Last edited by gnr61; 04-12-2009, 10:14 PM.
                              squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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                              • jimerax
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 8185

                                #195
                                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                                well that article about hands looks well-done.

                                I usually take hands as emphases (aka climax) rather than the result of layering, so I think the contrast between hands and silence/single/doubles is important.
                                I mean if you put decent number of jumps or hands around hands, the emphasis effect gets smaller (it's ok if you want to put climax on the whole section though).

                                btw do have any opinions about handstreams?

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