TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

roundbox is the first vote DBP and showed absolutely no intentions from moving away. (being satisfied with it)
roundbox wall wasn't as great as expected. (but hey, you posted something)
roundbox hasn't been present much even for D1. (but he said he'll get into it)

So, the question is; ..will he be able to deliver?

Conclusion:

"not a good look", but it doesn't mean "wolf", it just means "could be here".

MML has been far too involved into his own game to look filtered to me. I'm just seeing a standard game from him. Charu also had him as solid town and I felt the same as well. (gj if you're wolf here, like seriously)

I was the first vote, I think me revoting DBP without first moving my vote moved me to the back of the line as far as the vote-counter is concerned

fwiw Lar is right in that I /should/ be getting more flak than I am for killing DBP than say, AA is, and I'm not really sure what that means.

I think people are trying to latch onto the fact that AA's vote looks /kind of/ bad because of the timing, but not taking into account the fact that roundbox/me pushed the lynch, mostly me.

[thesunfan]

which is another point against shado imo

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

Catching up.

Note that I'm quite busy today (need to finish up a CS project I've been procrastinating on, plus one of my friends invited me to a freaking ESCAPE ROOM tonight) so I'll try to find time for this game but don't expect /too/ much.

I'd like your thoughts on game today before you go, please. As much as you can.

[thesunfan]

side note
I think Freezin responded to have 3 votes on him today better than I would've expected Freezin to if they were a wolf; they seem to not be able to deal with pressure very well as a wolf imo

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

greg how many wolves do you think are in

roundbox/shado

at least one, almost always at least one based on how I feel about the game rn

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Don't even fucking start this right now, dude.

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[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm having a really hard time reading jade because of the roleplay, everything they say sounds fake because it is

some of it feels like its in freezin's words (being tilted by witch)
I'm not familiar at all with Homestuck, but I can feel that its freezin making the posts

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I DIDNT HAVE A SCUMREAD ON HER UNTIL AFTER SHE OPPORTUNISTICALLY VOTED WITCH, YOU CRETIN.
I feel like a broken record. How are you not understanding this??

tbh I don't believe this, I think you voted mellon expecting a wagon, but when you backed off when you saw what people were saying, you said something like you didn't actually have a scumread on her, but you wanted her to post more

that's not the feeling I got from that vote by you

[thesunfan]

I might be focusing too much on shado here but I hope people see what AA and I are bringing up on this dude

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

that's not my pool right now
my pool includes only shado and I'm working on the rest

I admit that my pool yesterday was terrible and I voiced as much yesterday
I picked one name that I was confident in, and I'm fine with how I did that

Your pool today is worse. You might've had a low read accuracy in that pool yesterday, but it's 0% today.
I hate to say this, but it seems as though you're either overestimating or underestimating my towngame a lot (depends on how accurate my reads prove to be) if you're town.
Do yourself a favor and go read my previous towngames.

"Aggressive" in generating content? Check
Sometimes tinfoils? Check
Sometimes tunnels to China? Check
Sometimes undecisive in reads? Check
Meta analysis and vote analysis? Check
Argues irrelevancies at times? Check
Posts excessively much and causes the game to negatively impact his commitments IRL? Lol CHECK

[ShadoWolfe]

I'll be back later today. Will phonepost as opportunities arise. I'd like to see a lot more from.. Well, basically everyone, but especially Xel, Proph, and Jade

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

tbh I don't believe this, I think you voted mellon expecting a wagon, but when you backed off when you saw what people were saying, you said something like you didn't actually have a scumread on her, but you wanted her to post more

that's not the feeling I got from that vote by you

How? In what world does this make sense?? People (I think Charu or DBP, not really sure) were already disagreeing with my reasoning before I even voted. Why would I vote if what you're sayomg wrr true or made any sense? I put it pretty simply. I wanted her to vote more. I've said this from the very, very beginning. I don't understand how you could possibly think otherwise.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

"Aggressive" in generating content? Check
Sometimes tinfoils? Check
Sometimes tunnels to China? Check
Sometimes undecisive in reads? Check
Meta analysis and vote analysis? Check
Argues irrelevancies at times? Check
Posts excessively much and causes the game to negatively impact his commitments IRL? Lol CHECK

I don't usually reread previous games I think its usually a waste of time

I agree that you've generated a lot of content, I am not disputing you on this point. I agree that it /is/ a more townie trait in general, but you def are someone who I know can post a lot as a wolf because as much as I've been shitting on you for the past 20 posts, you're a good wolf, so I don't think this is a point in your favor or against you, but yes. You have generated a lot of content this game.

You had a stupid unexplained tinfoil on me last game that you tried to write off as a joke that I don't think you meant as a joke. I don't really have an opinion whether you or townies in general tinfoil more than wolves, but I've seen you do it as both alignments so idc.

I don't think you ever tunnel to China as either alignment. You did focus on raeko a lot but eh, I wouldn't say it was like, excessive. I somewhat disagree with AA in that I remember you doing/talking about a lot of other people, so I don't think that your persistence on raeko is anywhere near as damning as you not interacting very much with her/responding to her longer posts.

Don't really care about being indecisive, wolves have to do it because townies do it.

Look man all of these are attributes of both your town game and wolf game. They are attributes of your wolf game because they are attributes of your town game. Looking at what you've done specifically rather in general is how people need to read you, and how most people who don't have incredibly flawed unleveled gameplay should be read.

I have more respect for your game than to read you based on a checklist.

[Hakulyte]

AA/Sunfan seems coherent with game progression.

What they're saying about Shado fits with what I was getting upset about D0, but not expressing properly.

I plan to be more quiet today because I feel like I take too much space for not enough content.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

fwiw Lar is right in that I /should/ be getting more flak than I am for killing DBP than say, AA is, and I'm not really sure what that means.

I think people are trying to latch onto the fact that AA's vote looks /kind of/ bad because of the timing, but not taking into account the fact that roundbox/me pushed the lynch, mostly me.

The point of the suspicion, at least for me, is not that the DBP vote looks bad itself, since it's fairly reasonable that he could doubt his stance in the face of wanting a lynch and seeing townreads pushing that one, it's that at that time, he had me as null at best, yet didn't want to vote me? Silencing your doubts and voting with people you trust makes some sense if there's not a wagon that fits your stance more.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

How? In what world does this make sense?? People (I think Charu or DBP, not really sure) were already disagreeing with my reasoning before I even voted. Why would I vote if what you're sayomg wrr true or made any sense? I put it pretty simply. I wanted her to vote more. I've said this from the very, very beginning. I don't understand how you could possibly think otherwise.

I get the feeling that you wanted to push her, not because you wanted her to post more, and I mean that regardless of your alignment, but I do think its almost a universally wolfy move

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

The point of the suspicion, at least for me, is not that the DBP vote looks bad itself, since it's fairly reasonable that he could doubt his stance in the face of wanting a lynch and seeing townreads pushing that one, it's that at that time, he had me as null at best, yet didn't want to vote me? Silencing your doubts and voting with people you trust makes some sense if there's not a wagon that fits your stance more.

He said it was to avoid KitB.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

The point of the suspicion, at least for me, is not that the DBP vote looks bad itself, since it's fairly reasonable that he could doubt his stance in the face of wanting a lynch and seeing townreads pushing that one, it's that at that time, he had me as null at best, yet didn't want to vote me? Silencing your doubts and voting with people you trust makes some sense if there's not a wagon that fits your stance more.

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh you're not wrong man
I get that this looks not great for AA, but I'm looking at a lot of other shit he's done

the thunderdome post sequence with Shado makes me (like roundbox said) probably willing to never vote AA this game

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I get the feeling that you wanted to push her, not because you wanted her to post more, and I mean that regardless of your alignment, but I do think its almost a universally wolfy move

Regardless of my alignment?
So if you knew I was town, you'd think I was lying about my intentions?
Take that shit elsewhere man I'm not lying and I made my intentions clear from the get go.

[thesunfan]

well I guess roundbox only said that AA is probably not a wolf
I have a slightly stronger opinion