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  • ducky285
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2005
    • 1388

    #166
    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

    [07:58] Patashu: was wondering how much you'd be interested in helping out at the...
    [07:58] Patashu: STEPMANIA UNIVERSITY http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=107820
    [07:58] Patashu: it's actually serious

    and that's why I'm here.
    Quack quack quack

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    • jyris1
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2006
      • 133

      #167
      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

      Are there going to be any syncing lessons? If so, I think I may be a bit of help, with any guidance on what people want. I have been following this thread since the start, and so far, it looks like this university is going to be a stepping university (which is not my subject).
      Last edited by jyris1; 04-12-2009, 07:18 AM.
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      • kommisar[os]
        Banned
        • Apr 2006
        • 4097

        #168
        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

        holy **** its ducky

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        • ZC_Wolfy
          FFR Veteran
          • Dec 2008
          • 384

          #169
          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

          Originally posted by moches
          I tried registering on ChatSpike, but the friggin' bot said <insert email here> is not a valid email. Damn.
          Did you type it is as <example@email.com> or example@email.com ? It should be the latter


          And I'm probably going to work on the first assignment later today


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          • Patashu
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2006
            • 8609

            #170
            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

            the government of planet earth is happy to subsidize the costs of giving a copy of ddream studio to every student enrolled at SMU
            Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
            http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
            Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
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            • jyris1
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 133

              #171
              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

              I'm glad the funding is approved. I'll wait for the official syncing curriculum, and see what I can do then.
              I designed ddreamstudio.
              The FFR Community has kindly compiled a ddreamstudio guide/downloads here-> http://goo.gl/nq5Ad

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              • gnr61
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2005
                • 7251

                #172
                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                i think having jyris come in as a "guest speaker" to give a live tutorial on ddream studio would be the coolest thing ever

                @moches, make sure the server you try to connect to is irc.chatspike.NET if you haven't already
                also be sure to tune in tonight at 9:00PM EST in irc for an overview on hand placement (triples and quads) from yours truly
                Last edited by gnr61; 04-12-2009, 08:15 AM.
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                • moches
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 3996

                  #173
                  Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                  Oh, alright, thanks. I'd love to make the seminar but 9PM EST is 11AM AST (Azn Standard Time), which means school for me. Yay.

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                  • Xandertrax
                    om nom nom
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1495

                    #174
                    Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                    I need to figure out ddream studio.

                    I have trouble sycing with it when the audio is off the charts, lots of background noise, like heavy metal, etc. It's hard to find a discernible beat in the wave image, as far as I can tell.



                    like that: where would the beats go?

                    And I don't quite follow how to use mIRC. How do you connect to this server?
                    Last edited by Xandertrax; 04-12-2009, 09:29 AM.

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                    • Necros140606
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1088

                      #175
                      Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                      Originally posted by kommisar[os]
                      Vocal theory (as told by Necros) - When vocals are being layered in a song, step them as single notes with pitch relevancy as required, but make them blend in the chart. This means they aren't to be counted as layered notes, thus anything else wouldn't over lap on these vocal notes. They would still be pitch relevant and present in the chart, but wouldn't have excessive jumps due to layering. (i'm not sure i'm explaining this right)
                      I ACTUALLY FORGOT ABOUT EVER SAYING THIS LMAO

                      but now that you mention it, this could be explained in a simpler way by saying that if your song has somewhat prominent vocals but layering them does give you nasty outputs, you may choose to still consider them, stepping em as single arrows whenever you have a free spot. this way you aren't oversaturing yer chart and you aren't breaking the flow of the muziik.

                      alternatively, you could just place a freeze whenever there's some singing (regardless if you have single steps, jumps, hands, quads, or nothing), whose lenght you will have to decide accordingly to the intensity of the chart, the presence of jumps, jacks, etc. i think this has been explained already by patashu in the layering lessons so refer to those posts.

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                      • warriormag17
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 455

                        #176
                        Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                        This sounds cool, in for student please

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                        • Patashu
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 8609

                          #177
                          Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                          For mIRC:
                          1. Go to file > select server
                          2. Click the add button. Fill in the address as irc.chatspike.net and call it Chatspike, click okay so it saves
                          3. Ensure that the Chatspike server is now selected, and hit the 'Connect to Server' button
                          4. Once you connect to the server, a box will come up. Type #smu and hit enter
                          5. Type /nick Xandertrax (that's u)
                          Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                          http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                          Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                          http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                          • warriormag17
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 455

                            #178
                            Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                            and the download didnt work for me for some weird reason =(

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                            • jimerax
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8185

                              #179
                              Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                              Originally posted by Xandertrax
                              I have trouble sycing with it when the audio is off the charts, lots of backgroun noise, like heavy metal, etc. It's hard to find a discernible beat in the wave image, as far as I can tell.
                              Actually, it's almost impossible to tell the beat from the wave on the music like heavy metal. plus when the music is louder than assist tick sound it's even harder to sync.

                              and often, there're quite embarrassing problems like
                              - attacks of instruments are different/off on non-digital music (especially vocal)
                              - the music gets really unclear when it's slowed down
                              etc.

                              If I have to sync songs like that, I may edit the volume of the music file (if needed) and use assist tick, and go with only primary sound (usually putting beats for drums).

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                              • jyris1
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 133

                                #180
                                Re: Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

                                Originally posted by Xandertrax
                                I need to figure out ddream studio.

                                I have trouble sycing with it when the audio is off the charts, lots of backgroun noise, like heavy metal, etc. It's hard to find a discernible beat in the wave image, as far as I can tell.



                                like that: where would the beats go?

                                And I don't quite follow how to use mIRC. How do you connect to this server?
                                For this we have to jump straight to the advanced tutorial:



                                Try to see if that helps. If you follow those tips and still dont see a workable drumline in the wave, come back.

                                EDIT: You can also try to get a BPM estimate using your preferred automatic BPM calculator (you may be surprised at how smart these automatic BPM calculators can be sometimes):



                                Jimerax - It is possible to soften the music so that you can better hear the assist (Ctrl+Alt+Down). It was a newer feature to help combat the pains of syncing this kind of music. Also, in the Tools->Options, you can edit the individual volumes of the assist ticks.
                                Last edited by jyris1; 04-12-2009, 09:39 AM.
                                I designed ddreamstudio.
                                The FFR Community has kindly compiled a ddreamstudio guide/downloads here-> http://goo.gl/nq5Ad

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