8th Official FFR Tournament - Final Round!

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  • xNiX
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2012
    • 1063

    #1756
    Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

    Originally posted by Bobby Jeffrey Hill
    seriously i played SM for like half an hour and it fucked me all up.. can only imagine how difficult it is to adjust when you play it that long
    It's insane. I went off FFR for a good 5-6 months, and I'm still have trouble adjusting to the timing. It would probably take me months to really get it down.

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    • smartdude1212
      2 is poo
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2005
      • 6687

      #1757
      Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

      Originally posted by krunkykai22
      Why are people leaving jesus!
      Because religion is for suckas!

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #1758
        Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

        Originally posted by ssbmchamp
        I respect people's decisions to be removed but people saying "he couldn't get used to FFR" is the biggest joke I have ever heard.
        First: mind your manners. Staiain's SM skill is beyond comprehension (and I legitimately mean that), so when he says he can't get used to FFR, it's not something that should be treated as a "joke".

        Second: a lot of people that have trouble with SM after playing FFR have issues for various reasons. The loss of framerate, the smaller window space, the lack of perspectives, and more. People who lose accuracy on SM are the ones that read the playfield on a relative level to obtain their most accurate scores, and that is most certainly not an excuse. Those people who view the arrows in relativity to the receptors typically have better reading ability on SM than most, but this skill gets thrown out of the window with FFR's inconsistencies due to frame-based timing.

        I'm never victim to the SM -> FFR transfer, but that's because I read the charts based off of notation and not off of relative placement (hence why I have retarded MA on very constant things and absolutely horrible MA on very intricately colored files, that is -- until I can approximate rhythms for those hard to place notes).
        Last edited by TC_Halogen; 02-4-2013, 05:21 PM.

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        • xNiX
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2012
          • 1063

          #1759
          Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          I'm never victim to the FFR -> SM transfer, but that's because I read the charts based off of notation and not off of relative placement (hence why I have retarded MA on very constant things and absolutely horrible MA on very intricately colored files, that is -- until I can approximate rhythms for those hard to place notes).
          lol....

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #1760
            Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

            What exactly is so funny about that post?

            I read based off of chart coloring/rhythmic notation rather than relative positioning. It makes complete sense, and is also the same reason why I'm able to read absurdly low speed-mods with no speedcut. It's not exactly hard to separate a beat into 4/6/8 parts if you know how fast it should be.

            EDIT: meant SM -> FFR transfer, lol

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            • xNiX
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2012
              • 1063

              #1761
              Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

              It wasn't funny. Ignore me.

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              • krunkykai22
                <3 Jumpstream <3
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2006
                • 5436

                #1762
                Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                Man, BA is a fuccin tormenting file. And annoying.

                I can't get through the beginning 200 notes now without over 10 goods. I highly disagree with the structure of the 24th bursts/rolls :/ ... But, whatever.

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                • Xx{Midnight}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8548

                  #1763
                  Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                  Originally posted by smartdude1212
                  Because religion is for suckas!
                  Have my children you amazing man.

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                  • Scubasteve0110
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 213

                    #1764
                    Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                    Soooo, are we gonna get previews for the next round's songs like last time? I hope soo lol

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                    • 8 Hour Whore
                      ←↓↑→ Lets Bang? ←↓↑→
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2324

                      #1765
                      Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                      D4 cutoff is now 2-0-0-0 lolol
                      R.I.P JellyGod <333

                      Best AAA: Banned Forever
                      BlackFlags: 49

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                      • JJTrixX
                        Green & Gold ReflexKage
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 295

                        #1766
                        Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                        i hope it stays that way lol

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                        • ssbmchamp
                          Can't improve at this game.
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1128

                          #1767
                          Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                          Originally posted by FissionMailed1
                          Because being able to AAA 300+ BPM streams in SM but not being able to AAA low-mid FGOs in FFR means he is totally used to FFR. Keep being incredibly ignorance, you are doing an awesome job so far!

                          I see English isn't one of your strengths.

                          Anyway, I played SM for 4 years straight before actually playing FFR seriously and it took less than an hour to adjust to the frames in FFR so I'm aware there's a little bit of a difference...keyword "little." Also the fact that he achieved rank 2 on RATO means that he was in fact able to read and PA the song exceptionally well. Skill like that isn't just lost....sure if he takes a break from FFR but continues playing stepmania, there will be that little adjustment to make but the fact that he's playing ridiculous SM songs to maintain his skill, his FFR skills (that he proved he had) should take minimal time to get back (a day at most). The ONLY thing that would make sense is if he got that score years ago and stopped playing every possible rhythm game altogether for years then came back rusty as hell (which doesn't sound like the case because you tell me he plays a lot of hard SM files). You can bash me all you want but your argument just doesn't make sense..."He can AAA 300+ BPM files but can't adjust to FFR" (which he has an incredible score on) Something just isn't right with that picture...

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #1768
                            Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                            ssbm: you're being told by multiple high-end SM players that it's the case. There are other ridiculous SM players that couldn't get their skill translated -- Sakish and Dynam0 are far from their full potential... older (in the sense of a while ago) players like kaiten123/lukestepwalker were far more superior on SM than they were FFR.

                            Also, Staiain's situation is very problematic -- he plays on an extremely high speed mod to the point where if he wants to emulate the expected density on a given file, he can't do so on FFR due to FFR's considerably smaller screen size. R^2 doesn't help, because it too falls short when comparing noteskin size vs. distance of travel.

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                            • ssbmchamp
                              Can't improve at this game.
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1128

                              #1769
                              Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                              Ok, you guys are all correct.

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                              • TC_Halogen
                                Rhythm game specialist.
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 19376

                                #1770
                                Re: 8th Official FFR Tournament - Round 2!

                                Originally posted by ssbmchamp
                                Ok, you guys are all correct.
                                It's not being a matter of right or wrong, it's that you're dismissing a problem that is known to exist between SM players. By you saying that the argument simply doesn't make sense after the proof that has been brought up, you're pretty much showing that you don't understand why this is the case.

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