TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

It's not Pazzaz.

I believe his claim is legit, and he said he bussed 2 players, AA, and Charu - 2 townspeople.

I'm worried right now because the current turn of events was dfr getting pressure from AA and MML (i think, still hav en't reread) and AA getting day vig'd.

I want to say the most likely person to do that is dfr at the moment, but it seems so fucking easy.



if only this reaction wasn't god awful forced feeling, i wouldn't be willing to look at pazz

second suspicion falls to shadowolfe for overreaction:



I'm not exactly sure why you're adopting such an alarmist point of view.

17/20 players is about equivalent to 11/13 players, or one day phase of a normal 13 person setup assuming 3 wolves. Like, you seem to be blowing the urgency of the situation out of proportion to make it look like you're in a more desperate haze trying to scumhunt, but all you're really doing is not actually reading people. you've said "if you are town" to multiple players like, telling them to play better but not actually scumhunting at all?

final suspicion is haku.
instant fixation onto "gunsmith" throws up major alarm bells, given that according to the OP, items are on. Noting the other reactions that people gave to AA being day-vig'd, literally the only person that seemed to be primed to think of items was Haku, and I'd daresay that it's surprising given the intelligence of mechanical play and setup understanding he's shown in the past

This is his last major analysis post.

DFR = most likely candidate but it's almost too easy (it was, but we both panic swapped LOL)
Pazzaz = curious reaction, but he wasn't responsible for the shot
Shado = overly alarmist reaction, but he is confirmed to not have made the shot now
Haku = also not the shot maker

Unless one of these three that aren't DFR are trying to save face/suspicion, I'm not sure why they killed him?

I have to commentate osu stuff tomorrow, so I'll be probably attempt to iso people for the first time fucking ever because it feels weird having like a bunch of strong town leans, and no real substance on any scum (AragakiAyase, roundbox, MixMasterLar, XelNya, Vendetta21 for anyone's reference)

Here are his town reads. Looks like he's right on two (me/AA), and half-right on MML since he's a non-hostile third-party.






YoshL's presence last day phase was very, VERY lackluster, so I feel like the wolf crew scouted his role the night before. I don't see any other reason to kill him over Pazzaz, a semi-confirmed town. Not sure if this will get us anywhere. It's still worth looking into mellon today, however. She's in a pretty suspicious slot.

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I'm not sure how much I can say without being modkilled lol. First game excuse, etc, etc.

-o24

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I'm curious, why didn't you out gifting it to me here?

Like, what made you choose to refrain from including that?

might be reading too much into it?

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Also, open-question. Does anyone know of a santa-type role that is aligned against town?

I was under the assumption that the inherent nature of choosing between four pro-town items to gift is generally pro-town.

Also, if he were aligned against town, why would he gift me a knife? I'm inclined to believe andy and conclude that he's town for now.

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

YoshL lynch I think was either a confirmed role (more than just vanilla town) or residual top town rankings from d0. He was strong d0, lackluster d1, I agree.

-o24

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Question:

did people have an opinion on me prior to me posting today? or did my initial person not post?

just curious

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I'm not sure how much I can say without being modkilled lol. First game excuse, etc, etc.

-o24

I know you're traumatized because of the freezin modkill, but as long as you're not explicitly quoting the moderator or referencing any sort of communication from him, you're fine.

Like, I could claim to be santa, and say that I can send anyone a choice of either a knife, shield, crystall ball, or fortune cookie every night, and it'd be all above-board.

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I'm reading it as a town role, so I'm trying to help you guys. I figured giving you the knife would hopefully clear up your suspicion of item gifting and help to clear me from MML's push. Which admittedly, I worded my reasoning poorly.

-o24

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Also, open-question. Does anyone know of a santa-type role that is aligned against town?

I was under the assumption that the inherent nature of choosing between four pro-town items to gift is generally pro-town.

Also, if he were aligned against town, why would he gift me a knife? I'm inclined to believe andy and conclude that he's town for now.

i have heard of such a role, but I've never played with it, and it is, obviously, inherently uncommon.

i would think that the gift giver (or santa) being either a villager or third party makes more sense.


Usually if its a wolf gift giver or something of the sort, they only give 1 bad item afaik.

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I'm reading it as a town role, so I'm trying to help you guys. I figured giving you the knife would hopefully clear up your suspicion of item gifting and help to clear me from MML's push. Which admittedly, I worded my reasoning poorly.

-o24

are you third party
it sounds like you're third party

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I don't have a win condition inherent in the PM. So it feels VERY town to me.

-o24

[andy-o24]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Explicit, probably is better than inherent.

-o24

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

For my sanity, here are the LIVING PLAYERS:

4) wineandbread
5) roundbox
7) XelNya
8) Precarious
9) Vendetta21
10) theknightsofneeee
12) ShadoWolfe
13) Pazzaz
15) Andy-o24
16) gold stinger
17) inDheart
19) mellonxcollie
20) Tokzic

13 players

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

Question:

did people have an opinion on me prior to me posting today? or did my initial person not post?

just curious

Your slot is scum-read.

R.E. Aryxi was the original slot-holder. I pushed him, he promised to address my push, and then he replaced out.
Hakulyte was the next slot-holder. His meta is generally (analytical, serious wolf, hesitant, shitposty town). In this game, he was entirely analytical and serious, and didn't shitpost at all (granted, he replaced into D1 and shitposting is generally most prevalent in D0).

You replacing in is a breath of fresh air, so I'm gonna let you do your thing before making a judgment, but know that your slot is currently working against you.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLX If Emblem was a bad employee Game Thread

I don't have a win condition inherent in the PM. So it feels VERY town to me.

-o24

stop talking about the PM like that, dude. I told you you're good as long as you DON'T reference communication from the moderator.

You can say "I don't know my win condition"

you can't say "blah blah blah PM"