Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

But you can't exploit a part of the game where there's no exploit. If they fixed the game so that you can't wavedash, I highly doubt that you'll be able to given time.

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Hey, idea.

Let's just play the game as it is. A game. You know, something to have fun with and enjoy.

The developer has included about 500 hours' worth of content, and that's just single-player. Isn't that enough for you?

I don't know about you, but I don't buy video games going "i wonder how i can exploit this game to pwn noobs online!!1"

[Relambrien]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

You know, something to have fun with and enjoy.

And as I've repeated countless times, finding things the devs didn't intend and using them to become as good as I possibly can IS fun. That IS playing the game. That's how I have fun, by becoming as good as I possibly can using any methods short of those deemed illegal by the community. This includes finding and utilizing exploits.

You don't have to accept why I feel like this, but I'd appreciate it if you accept that how you have fun isn't necessarily how others have fun. Simply playing the game as a casual party game isn't fun for me.

The developer has included about 500 hours' worth of content, and that's just single-player. Isn't that enough for you?

Besides the fact that I highly doubt there will be 500 hours of meaningful content (meaning, 300 hours trying to get No Damage Clear for the Diskun trophy isn't meaningful), no, it isn't enough. I want to find out everything, because that's the kind of person I am. I like to have complete and total knowledge on subjects in which I take interest. I want to know as much about this game as possible.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Wow, I didn't mean to start up an argument about wave-dashing again. Jesus you guys are all so quick to defend your stance on it.

~Tsugomaru

[Relambrien]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Well, I don't think wavedashing is the heart of the issue here, but rather, play styles. There are people like Squeek who have the most fun just playing a wacky casual party game, which is fine. Then there are people like me who have the most fun by improving my skill as much as I can, and knowing as much as I can. I'm much more competitive.

I just don't appreciate it when others consider their way to play the "proper" way to play. If others want to play casually, that's fine with me. I just don't want to. The beauty of Smash is that with all the customization, you can play whatever way you want, and if people prefer different ways to play, then all the better.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

It's going to turn into a wavedashing argument in the end. We've seen this at least 5 times now. In the same thread.

~Tsugomaru

[arsonistsgetallthegirls]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Whoa, whoa, people...

I never said that I wanted to find something wrong with the game or to exploit it in any way. I only said that given time, people can exploit the tiniest bug to be something major. Name any game, there's a glitch for it. No exceptions (well, sorta). Not even pong.

[Relambrien]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Tsug, that's why I'm trying to end it before it gets to that point.

Basically, long argument cut down really short:

Everyone plays differently. Some people are competitive. Some are casual. Neither is better than the other, and each have fun in different ways. They're still enjoying the game, so it's no one's place to say just how another should play.

I'm hoping we're all in agreement on that point, and can just let this whole "Exploits-playstyle-flamefest" thing go with that.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Is restraining myself from starting an argument.

~Tsugomaru

[arsonistsgetallthegirls]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Sooo, how bout them masterpieces?

[Matthew4444]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Gah, I never liked demos in a game. Maybe it's an OCD quality of myself, but seeing something incomplete in a game just annoys me. Or maybe it's the fact that I know I'll eventually get drawn into trying a few of them, then end up buying them. Oh well, I have VC points to spare (7900, yay Christmas).

[Hylian]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

I can't wait to play the demo.

I'm going to live at gamestop.

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Well, I don't think wavedashing is the heart of the issue here, but rather, play styles. There are people like Squeek who have the most fun just playing a wacky casual party game, which is fine. Then there are people like me who have the most fun by improving my skill as much as I can, and knowing as much as I can. I'm much more competitive.

I just don't appreciate it when others consider their way to play the "proper" way to play. If others want to play casually, that's fine with me. I just don't want to. The beauty of Smash is that with all the customization, you can play whatever way you want, and if people prefer different ways to play, then all the better.

This is totally untrue.

I put about as much time into Melee as any other guy. I was totally obsessed with the game. I probably put more time into Melee than all of my other Gamecube games combined. All 42 of them.

I don't play it as a fun party game. I play it just like you do; I compare my skill against others whenever possible. It just happens that my friends all hate Melee and I'm forced to play against bots, so all I really could do was play the campaigns on Very Hard with every character or play 3 vs 1 matches against level 9s or Cruel Melee. Before you jump down my throat and tell me that's not real skill, it is. If I can't play against other people, how else would you purport I test my skill at the game?

Can't you be good at a game without exploiting the engine? That's all I am asking. I never cheated (as I see it, cheating is anything against what the developers intend for gameplay) and I did just fine for myself.

[Aleste]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Only a few more days for the japanese release. Does anyone think they'll stop the weekly updates after that? it would make sense if they did, since the whole game is going to leak all over the internet. But *shrug*

[Squeek]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

I don't think the updates will stop. Just the teaser-like updates. The later updates will probably be like "did you know that you could do this with the game?" or "hidden character! here are hints on how to unlock it!"