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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
congratulations on the most generic townie statement in the history of twg
"i'd rather kill reds, but if not, then I'd rather greens die than blues"
the fuck, is it even necessary to say shit like that lmao cmonComment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
Who would you rather lynch, a green/red or a blue/red???Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
ay gurl i wasn't gonna keep my vote on bowser. that was just my frustration taking over
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
A cold wind blows...
Distant thunder shakes the earth...
Dread hangs in the electric air...Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
...it's time for a big ass reads post.Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
Green
Ike – Solid activity, solid reads, and his suggestions about game mechanics (ie don't talk about seering targets and optimal plays when the wolves are still trying to decide, don't lynch bowser right away) tend to be ones that I agree with. Bowser seering him as green has me a tad iffy, but unless the flips start to paint a different picture I'm good with keeping him here.
Link – Early pocketing on Ike and the big big reads post are WIFOM enough for me to want to put him under neutral, but I'm leaning towards green since he's been consistent with his reads. He stated that he could maybe support a Bowser lynch but that his main choice would be Mega Man or Yoshi, and then when the opportunity for a Bowser or a Mega Man lynch arose and Pit lessened the likelihood of a Yoshi lynch by switching his vote Link went the Mega Man route. If we're looking at voteswappers in the Mega Man wagon, Link is likely in the same boat as Samus.
Peach – A few confusing plays such as claiming gunsmith when it didn't need to be claimed and having no gun to show for it or professing a continued disinterest in the game, but for now I trust both of his claims enough to trust him himself.
Rosalina – Although there's not too much originality in her reads (mostly focusing on the fox/kirby and mega man/bowser dynamics), she's making a decent effort after having been ultra-inactive. I see incentive to be pro-town. My main fault with her (aside from the inactivity) would be when she said she skimmed the entire thread but didn't give too much direct evidence for the conclusions that she arrived at because of her skimming.
Marth – Similar to Rosalina, no glaring faults other than UTR play and not showing up for EOD.
Mega Man – Despite the possibility of super OMGUS on Bowser, his railroading doesn't seem to be without purpose. I like his tone, his confidence, the amount of time it takes him to reply in an active argument, and I like most of the actual points that he's making. This is a bit of a leap, but I could see Mega Man being so gung ho on Bowser as a subversive counterclaim as well.
Villager – I still feel solid enough from the early mindmelds to keep him in here, though the tunnel vision on Bowser and Fox and the self-admitted inactivity as of late is making me concerned.
Yoshi – dfr playing as dfr does. However, if Peach turns out to be a fraud then Yoshi would likely be one as well.
Zelda – When I think of somebody going against the common sentiment of the thread I think of Zelda. She kind of seems to be on her own at times, which for now I'm interpreting as human for having independent thought.
Neutral
Fox – Fox seems like he's having a tough time trying to defend himself and isn't putting too much effort into wolfhunting. Is that because he's overwhelmed with defenses, or because he's not interested in finding wolves? I didn't really think of him too much before Kirby and Villager started pushing but he's somebody who I'm going to pay closer attention to from now on.
Dedede – Dedede doesn't post too often, and when he does it's either a decent point or fluff so it's hard to read him one way or the other. There's also a bit of carry-over suspicions from Pac Man on my part. I'd need more activity to make a solid judgment.
Kirby – More likely to be the wolf out of the Fox/Kirby dynamic I think. In addition to the convenient timing of showing up for the first phase's EOD, Kirby made a couple of posts about being on the fence with Bowser that read to me like somebody trying to stay as neutral as possible:
There also hasn't been much development in his reads either. Fox and Ike have been his main concerns and will likely continue to be as well. I'm also not a fan of how aggressive he was in response to a blank vote from Ike:
The reason I'm putting him as neutral and not red despite of all these reads is because I'm still not sure about Fox and if Fox is a wolf then I'm likely wrong about Kirby.
Little Mac – Similar to Fox, trying to get by while making the bare minimum number of posts and reads to look involved. Not enough for me to go off of one way or the other.
Meta Knight – Null, obviously. I read DK as a wolf for forced tone and UTR lurking, but choosing to be replaced is enough of a pro-town move to move Meta Knight out of the red until there's more to go off of.
Red
Bowser – Without getting into detail about what's already been said, before the claim I had read Bowser as red because of his domineering post count and the way that he was being condescending to others, which I took as a tell that he had a more important role. The cop reveal could explain my earlier read but I'm still suspicious enough of how the claiming stuff went down that I'll keep him here.
Pikachu – My best bet for the godfather, played difficult to read in an effort to force a check and then went cold after it was given to him. Like Bowser, I'd hold off on him until later though.
Pit – Read Bowser as human due to a lack of defense for him when the wagon was beginning to form but he and Link were that defense. Also, he had stated an earlier intent to vote Bowser while putting his vote on Yoshi:
But he abandons those, defending Bowser and moving his previous vote (which put Yoshi into a 3way kitb between him, Bowser, and Mario) onto Mega Man specifically, thus beginning the train. In addition, this post has a weird tone:
Also interesting is that Samus' death was “no surprise” to Pit when this post is the absolute first mention that he's made to Samus the entire game (I could be wrong about this though, point me in the wrong direction if I am please).
Sonic – Ultra UTR except for showing up after the first phase's scheduled EOD and never surfacing again. Likely browsing as a guest and made an error.Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
well I have homework to do so i'm not gonna get to that in a while
but hey yeah not wolf actually kthnx
this is called being a yolohuman and not caring what i look likeComment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
You should care about what you look like if it leads your teammates to read you incorrectly, which is what you say I'm doing.Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
There is so much wrong here that I can't let this go by unchecked without responding to it for everyone.
As annoying as everyone is perceiving Mega Man's relentless onslaught against Bowser, that should be NO REASON to simply lynch a green, especially one you BELIEVE TO BE GREEN, what. If you BELIEVE someone is green, redirect your vote somewhere else. Mega Man laid out his life just minutes before the lynch, and it's fairly easy to read that he earnestly believed was not making it through that lynch.
You don't lynch someone to just "shut them up". This is tantamount to the situation where Captain Falcon was lynched and Ike was "not concerned" about the flip because Captain Falcon wasn't being a helpful green anyway.
That can't happen again. A green is another number. The way someone is approaching the game, however rude it may appear, is totally independent of what our best choice of action should be. (Unless you're going to have some sort of trauma from their comments after this game but come on~)
At the present time a lynch of Bowser is far too risky, but I believe the only move that could be worse right now is lynching Mega man simply for being an annoying green. We could actually now take the time to exam the indecisiveness of the voting behavior like we said we could do just yesterday and find a solid lead among those posts. My next current vote is placed with this reasoning in mind, not saltiness against personal attacks to a headache from constant condescending posts.
Of those that appeared to just jump on Mega Man nearing the lynch, Samus is now gone, Peach I trust in the gunsmith claim, Ike is seered green (???), Zelda simply was there and was pushing for the lynch far before the trainwreck of votes appeared. Therefore, of those left, my vote is on Kirby
I don't know if this is the most telling choice other than the already harped upon opinion that a wolf most likely lies between Fox or Kirby. If anything this direction would enlighten us to that a little more than wrecking someone's game who some people still believe is green! I would love to also hear what insights others see around this EoD time.Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
Nice speech little Mac, but I think he's a wolf, or else I would of hopped off awhile ago. I know not to lynch someone because they are annoying, trust me. It's just an icing on the cake with mega man.Comment
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Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers
Nice reads post Charizard. You bring up good points about pit, and puts him more in my red pile. He was just a slight red because of voting Bowser, but now he's just red.
As for the read on me, that's pretty much spot on. I'm not here to conform, I'm here to win. Sure, it doesn't make it easy, but it'll help tremendously if I die.Comment
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