World of Warcraft

[Squeek]

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Hi Grandia. Welcome to Ulduar.

Flame Leviathan's Hard Mode is activated by speaking to the Lore Keeper of Norgannon in the staging area. Doing so activates all four orbital defense weapons, named for the Keepers of Ulduar. You can then turn off individual systems by destroying their corresponding tower. Talking to Brann and starting the event without speaking to the Lore Keeper will keep all defense systems inactive and disable the hard mode.

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[Grandiagod]

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I just heal. Don't look at me, I don't have to know anything about anything to do my job

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[Squeek]

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PS they're nerfing JC.

I literally just leveled JC because I heard how awesome it was, and now it's getting nerfed. Goddamn.

For those who don't know, they're removing the Prismatic quality of the Dragon's Eyes. They didn't say what colors they'd make them, if anything, but it's pretty obvious they'll just be the color of the regular gem with the same stats. AKA, worthless. The whole point of JC wasn't the better gems, it was the ability to use good gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. Now we're back to using terrible gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. I honestly don't understand the point of requiring all DPS classes to have two blue gems for their crit meta when NONE OF THEM USE BLUE GEMS.

[Gano]

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Finished off dumb Loremaster today, had 9 quests left in Blade's Edge and Netherstorm that I was just putting off for a long time, so yay for that. Bumped my achievement points to 6095, which puts me like 100 behind that one guy. I'm coming for you guy.

[edit] Hehe Squeek I like how your best in slot elemental helm is the resto teir helm

[devonin]

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PS they're nerfing JC.

I literally just leveled JC because I heard how awesome it was, and now it's getting nerfed. Goddamn.

For those who don't know, they're removing the Prismatic quality of the Dragon's Eyes. They didn't say what colors they'd make them, if anything, but it's pretty obvious they'll just be the color of the regular gem with the same stats. AKA, worthless. The whole point of JC wasn't the better gems, it was the ability to use good gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. Now we're back to using terrible gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. I honestly don't understand the point of requiring all DPS classes to have two blue gems for their crit meta when NONE OF THEM USE BLUE GEMS.

Spirit, Stamina, MP5 and Spell Penetration. Not EVERY DPS finds them -worthless- just not exactly amazing. At worst though, they only have to burn 1 blue slot (Since they can make each of two blue gems be purple/green/prismatic instead of straight blue)

As for "the purpose of JC" you and I have a very strong disagreement as to the purpose of the profession. Number 1: The trinkets are fantastic, Number 2: The better gems are fantastic. Obviously certain professions are going to lend themselves to certain classes in their extra powers, and basic powers, and maybe it's just become the case that JC isn't for every DPS now.

Also: DPS metas that do not require blue sockets:

+21 crit, +2% mana
+42 AP, +run speed
+25 SP, +2% intellect

[Tokzic]

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My meta takes one blue gem.

But since my tear gier has no blue slots, I just stick it in my necklace, which has a blue slot at the moment and provides a socket bonus.

Blue gems aren't a huge deal as a DPS, you just want as few as you can get away with.

[devonin]

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Accepting on a half a gem worth of MP5 or Stamina isn't nearly so bad as all that, especially when, as a JC, your dragon's eye gems are -solidly- superior to what else is out there.

[Squeek]

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Spirit, Stamina, MP5 and Spell Penetration. Not EVERY DPS finds them -worthless- just not exactly amazing. At worst though, they only have to burn 1 blue slot (Since they can make each of two blue gems be purple/green/prismatic instead of straight blue)

As for "the purpose of JC" you and I have a very strong disagreement as to the purpose of the profession. Number 1: The trinkets are fantastic, Number 2: The better gems are fantastic. Obviously certain professions are going to lend themselves to certain classes in their extra powers, and basic powers, and maybe it's just become the case that JC isn't for every DPS now.

Also: DPS metas that do not require blue sockets:

+21 crit, +2% mana
+42 AP, +run speed
+25 SP, +2% intellect

Number 1: The trinkets are fantastic (for some classes (not mine)).
Number 2: The better gems are fantastic (for now. Once epic gems come out, JC becomes the worst profession in the game stat-wise).

DPS Metas: I don't know of anyone who uses those metas for DPS. Really, nobody.

21 crit, 2% mana = healer gem. Also, extremely rare cut.
42 AP, + run speed = I have no idea who would want this, but there are several other 42 AP gems with different bonuses and they all require 2 gems that aren't red.
25 sp, 2% int = healer gem, again.

Our meta gem is 21 crit, 3% increased crit damage. It's far and wide the best one.

[tsugomaru]

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I've never really had issues with gemming for certain colors. I've always had a wide variety of blue, yellow, and red gems because I can use them all. My favorite gems are the int ones, but because of the way my class is built, it's not a bad idea to pick up some spirit gems (blue) for mana regen and some spell power gems (red) for my heals.

~Tsugomaru

[devonin]

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Best one doesn't mean you must use it if having to deal with a green or purple gem is so horrifically bad for you. Don't like using those, use another meta, or put a +10 all stats gem in something.

Considering there already are epic gems, stormjewels, and dragon's eye cuts -still- compare favourably to them (and you can have 3 instead of 1) the epic quality gems will make the JC benefits of dragon's eye cuts lessened, but I still will be perfectly glad for the profession.

For all you know, they might even make us some 213 trinket designs in icecrown.

[Grandiagod]

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Yeah it's fun walking around with a level 75 blue trinket and oh whoppie my flasks last 2 hours boy i'm glad i chose alchemy

[devonin]

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Erm, the JC trinkets are still Ilvl 200, and easily a match (for some though of course not all) for most 200 epic trinkets and even some 213s.

[Squeek]

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Alchemy is currently the worst profession stat-wise, even though the bonus is technically the same. The problem is that you have to actually use the Flask to get the +37 / +64 benefit that everyone else passively gets. Sure, it's a Flask, so it'll persist for most of the entire raid, but I'd rather not have to use a consumable to get my bonus.

After the patch nerfing JC, its bonus drops to +39 / +66. So honestly, it's not too big of a nerf for most people (except for people who have to use terrible gems to meet their metas like every caster dps class in the game (and worse for people who had to use a 27 hit rating gem to be hit-capped because 368 hit rating is ridiculously high)). But the people who are defending this are concerned because of the epic gems mainly. If they don't provide higher-quality Dragon's Eyes after epic gems come out, there's basically no value in being a JC any more.

also: the jc trinkets are worthless to me, as are +stats items. The 42 hit trinket is the only one that benefits me in some way, but it's far too weak to be worthwhile. I barely get by with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40255 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37873 together--I've had to gem hit, wear a hit cloak, neck, etc. SP mail does not have hit on it at all (with the exception of tier gear, and that only has 107 / 123 / 165 / 180 hit depending on the tier level.

[tsugomaru]

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I think the idea is not to give any profession a huge edge over another. Every profession has their perks, but none will make any hugely superior to another. I mean for Tailoring, the cape embroideries and easy to afford pant enchants are the only perks. For enchanting, the ring enchants and extremely convenient to get enchants. For alchemy, I have infinite flasks so I can keep both of my characters flasked in all raids whenever I feel like it. If one profession was significantly better for me than another, it forces me to pick that profession or change accordingly. I don't want JC to be so overpowered that I need to drop a profession I've invested a lot of time and money in to to just keep up with other healers.

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

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I only dropped Herbalism, so I don't care. My DK will be a better herbalist anyway with the mount speed increase and the ability to just park him in places with herbs.

Tsug, you forget Tailoring has the Embroidery procs too.

Every profession falls into the 38/64 category. 38 spellpower or 64 attack power are the bonuses. Some are slightly higher (JC is 39, Enchanting is 38, etc) and some are slightly lower (Alchemy has 37 when you actually use Flasks), but it's all around that number. It's mostly balanced.