Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

[R3v0lut10nm4st3r11]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

When Oni was introduced, less than 10 members could achieve it. I remember only seeing like four for the first week or so? Would that not the case now?

Also, the requirements to get Edit aren't as easy as Oni's are. We're striving for mid-FGO+, keeping the Edit get counts low.

Also, more than half of those 400 people didn't work hard to get up there.

Also, it's ok. =]

True, true. I feel like it's a good idea and i wouldn't mind introducing it and see how it plays out. I just don't want to enter like vc or mp saying "guess what, i got [oni]!!" and having 3 other people going, wow your good. Try getting edit now noob.

[[TeRa]]

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Try getting edit now noob.
8)

[bmah]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

I think people hate knowing the fact that there would be a token that's nearly impossible for most to achieve, so they would prefer that the top players be satisfied with personal gratification on the incredible scores they achieve rather than moaning on the fact that there would always be a song they cannot play because of his or her skill level. You could say "oh, but wasn't this the same kind of mentality when otaku ONI token came out?". I think people are thinking that this new token has gone too far in terms of achievability; they want token requirements that can reasonably be achieved by a normal player. Because we all hate not getting that last token, right?

And for the top players who are looking for a new goal to achieve, most people couldn't care less because you're a minority in that case - you're just more vocal about it.

I personally don't care what happens. I won't care if I cannot achieve an FGO AAA. And it's a song we already have, just harder steps.

[R3v0lut10nm4st3r11]

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I think people hate knowing the fact that there would be a token that's nearly impossible for most to achieve, so they would prefer that the top players be satisfied with personal gratification on the incredible scores they achieve rather than moaning on the fact that there would always be a song they cannot play because of his or her skill level. You could say "oh, but wasn't this the same kind of mentality when otaku ONI token came out?". I think people are thinking that this new token has gone too far in terms of achievability; they want token requirements that can reasonably be achieved by a normal player. Because we all hate not getting that last token, right?

Kinda sorta agreed. Thats why i said it shouldn't be a skill token. Personal gratification and they fact that everyone knows they have AAA'd FGO's. Once i get oni you think anyone is going to notice?

[p4rty_b0y]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

Sprite has already been denied twice on getting the token i doubt its going to happen =(

[bmah]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

I guess I should point out the general breakdown of the types of people out on FFR:

About 80% of people on FFR rarely post or do not post on the forums and probably would not care either way what happens. They play casually and recognition from others is hardly important.

About 18% of people on FFR post on forums and may range from a beginner to very decent at the game. They would most likely oppose the idea of an FGO token.

About 2% of people on FFR post on forums and are extremely good at the game. They would most likely agree with the idea of a an FGO token.


So people in the latter two categories would care more because they it's the 20% of the community that would actually give personal recognition and make them feel better about it in terms of personal achievements. If 80% of people don't even post here and just play for fun, maybe you can get a sense that recognition should be a complementary reward rather than a necessity. That's how I think of it - I'm not really worried if there's a new token that most people can't get.

[R3v0lut10nm4st3r11]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

I guess I should point out the general breakdown of the types of people out on FFR:

About 80% of people on FFR rarely post or do not post on the forums and probably would not care either way what happens. They play casually and recognition from others is hardly important.

About 18% of people on FFR post on forums and may range from a beginner to very decent at the game. They would most likely oppose the idea of an FGO token.

About 2% of people on FFR post on forums and are extremely good at the game. They would most likely agree with the idea of a an FGO token.


So people in the latter two categories would care more because they it's the 20% of the community that would actually give personal recognition and make them feel better about it in terms of personal achievements.

20%?, you said 2% that are actually good would accept this. Your assuming everyone decently good that posts on the forums would accept this? Assumption much?

[bmah]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

Read my previous post, I've added a little more. And I said that it's about maybe 20% of FFR members who post on the forums (and hence would give recognition by posting here and say "good job"), and the rest anonymously play on their own, or do not post on the forums. I did not say that 20% of people would accept this token.

[EAGAMES]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

Updated the supporter's list.

[MinaciousGrace]

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what's with the sudden burst of posts

sup rajdaddy

[qqwref]

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I don't count as a supporter?

[stargroup]

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okay this is stupid for multiple reasons

1. otaku speedvibe is not a fun song to begin with

2. for the idiots who think number 1 is subjective, otaku speedvibe does not generate a fun chart

3. for the idiots who think numbers 1 and 2 are subjective, the edit difficulty is stupid. there isn't supposed to be a difficulty above oni, edit is only there for EDITING. you're taking a technical part of stepmania and you're making become this. just make a completely different file

4. you can't really make otaku speedvibe any harder than it already is without making it complete bs

5. we don't really need this token in the first place. people will whine that they can't get it and more drama will ensue. effort just isn't worth it. people who do become this good will naturally play more. but, this is the weakest of the reasons I have listed, so if really necessary you can ignore this

6. isn't the point of ffr to try and stay away from being like sm? if you put in heavy oni and edit then what is the difference between these two games besides mods and timing windows

7. THINK ABOUT THIS. IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA

[OneHandNow]

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okay this is stupid for multiple reasons

1. otaku speedvibe is not a fun song to begin with

2. for the idiots who think number 1 is subjective, otaku speedvibe does not generate a fun chart

3. for the idiots who think numbers 1 and 2 are subjective, the edit difficulty is stupid. there isn't supposed to be a difficulty above oni, edit is only there for EDITING. you're taking a technical part of stepmania and you're making become this. just make a completely different file

4. you can't really make otaku speedvibe any harder than it already is without making it complete bs

5. we don't really need this token in the first place. people will whine that they can't get it and more drama will ensue. effort just isn't worth it. people who do become this good will naturally play more. but, this is the weakest of the reasons I have listed, so if really necessary you can ignore this

6. isn't the point of ffr to try and stay away from being like sm? if you put in heavy oni and edit then what is the difference between these two games besides mods and timing windows

7. THINK ABOUT THIS. IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA

this is so true.
maybe we should add like uhmm..
vertex gamma [oni] or something? haha i dont know

[mhss1992]

Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT]

I want to support too.
But I agree that it would be better with another song, and not Otaku Speedvibe, otherwise, it's not going to be a reward, something fun and worth the effort, just a symbol of status.

[OneHandNow]

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Right, mhss1992?
We should totally support a different FUN song for another [Oni] or [Guru] token
Like say Vertex Delta