TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Hey guess what, it's exactly the two players I wanted to vote out in the past 2 phases and couldn't.

How coincidental. It's almost like they're wolves or something.

This is probably not a good idea but I'll go mercenary mode and help you out if no other insane info comes out. If only because i think the next eod would be really funny if you were right.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

shado, I'll do my best to explain why we CAN'T kill afford not to kill Zenith
you are right that these are best left tto the mod normally
(I am missing out on something truly grand to be here btw I am experiencing FOMO)

Zenith is not here
he hasn't been here in a while, long enough for me to believe he isn't coming back
normally, this results in a replacement (or modkill)
the OP doesn't have anything about modkills for inactivity in it, I would be spitballing toi suppose something here

I think we have to operate under the assumption that he is not coming back, and that he will not be replaced (this is the most I will comment on the 2nd of these suppositions in this sentence)

Because of this, if he is a villager (which I think he likely isn't but w/e), town enters lylo essentially down a villager
in my estimation, we basically already have lost the game if this occurs

wolves can force a coinflip forever AT MINIMUM and town can only insta if a wolf busses another wolf, or votes for a town alongside town (which maybe they will, honestly, it is kinda based for wolves to just make town win the 12.5% rolls but I bet they'd be cowards instead since that feels like the theme of this game)

DBP (or whoever else) CAN be a wolf, obviously outside of zenith there are 2 or 3

but you cannot possibly tell me that you expect town to benefit immensely from
a) frontloading the flip from DBP (or whoever else) can possibly outweigh the risk of a permanent 12.5% win percentage
b) I actually forgot my 2nd point and checked a discord message and don't remembner, but in the interest of time, I will post this now

we ARE killing zenith, whoever else is wolfy WILL be here tomorrow, and town will either profit immensely by flipping zenith W or we will avoid forever disaster by flipping zenith T

killing Zenith even if he is town has genuinely the highest non-role related upside in a game I have ever seen

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

*the next day, not eod. used the wrong word, phone posting isnt even an excuse

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

explain my guy. the "mechanical forced blah" doesn't cut it here.
I'll be 100% honest, my tinfoil world is DBP/sunfan/freezin and I feel like following you on Zenith is gonna be the literal death of me

I tried to get a cfd on DBP end of d0
literally only switch back to botchi because freezin pointed out botchi to me or it was nothing

if you think that was theater, you think it is exceptionally organized theater at a truly chaotic eod when I was on fucking mobile

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

explain my guy. the "mechanical forced blah" doesn't cut it here.
I'll be 100% honest, my tinfoil world is DBP/sunfan/freezin and I feel like following you on Zenith is gonna be the literal death of me

explain to me how town has better than 12.5% win percentage if zenith is town and enters lylo

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

shado, I'll do my best to explain why we CAN'T kill afford not to kill Zenith
you are right that these are best left tto the mod normally
(I am missing out on something truly grand to be here btw I am experiencing FOMO)

Zenith is not here
he hasn't been here in a while, long enough for me to believe he isn't coming back
normally, this results in a replacement (or modkill)
the OP doesn't have anything about modkills for inactivity in it, I would be spitballing toi suppose something here

I think we have to operate under the assumption that he is not coming back, and that he will not be replaced (this is the most I will comment on the 2nd of these suppositions in this sentence)

Because of this, if he is a villager (which I think he likely isn't but w/e), town enters lylo essentially down a villager
in my estimation, we basically already have lost the game if this occurs

wolves can force a coinflip forever AT MINIMUM and town can only insta if a wolf busses another wolf, or votes for a town alongside town (which maybe they will, honestly, it is kinda based for wolves to just make town win the 12.5% rolls but I bet they'd be cowards instead since that feels like the theme of this game)

DBP (or whoever else) CAN be a wolf, obviously outside of zenith there are 2 or 3

but you cannot possibly tell me that you expect town to benefit immensely from
a) frontloading the flip from DBP (or whoever else) can possibly outweigh the risk of a permanent 12.5% win percentage
b) I actually forgot my 2nd point and checked a discord message and don't remembner, but in the interest of time, I will post this now

we ARE killing zenith, whoever else is wolfy WILL be here tomorrow, and town will either profit immensely by flipping zenith W or we will avoid forever disaster by flipping zenith T

killing Zenith even if he is town has genuinely the highest non-role related upside in a game I have ever seen

I am missing amazing tacos that I MYSELF MADE on family night to be here, so I feel you on the FOMO

and I get where you're coming from now. I was a dumbass and forgot that we need the town VOTES, not just the content

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

no, no, you're right. We lynch Zenith and only Zenith

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Oh thats what sunfan meant when he said mechanics. Vote mechanics

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

ok jesus I was worried we were in the twilight zone for a sec

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

ok uhh reads real quick I guess would be good to get out

sunfan you do the same

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

But what if haku is right tho

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

damn i become lowkey kinda chaotic when eod comes around, feels like how i used to play

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

If the team is Zenith/DBP/botchi, you guys realize the entire wolf team is missing this eod ? That's insane.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I guess DBP did leave a botchi vote at least.

Going with Zenith 'cause it's the most resourceful vote.

I sometimes wish I could do some crazy CFD EoD shenanigans, but I don't think I have what it takes to back it up purposefully this time.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

ok uhh reads real quick I guess would be good to get out

sunfan you do the same

my reads suck, especially on haku, because I haven't had time to dedicate myself to this game today
I trust bugkid the most and have them as my only solid villager

I *think* I have freezin next, but there is a true, ocean-sized gulf between freezin and bugkid, and I am not sure if I trust botchi more

botchi is because he just genuinely feels like a lost villager, and freezin has been on the same page as me for so, so long that it is hard for me to not believe he is town
a zenith t flip makes it hard to read freezin, because I do know he might just try to stunt on the wagons (or maybe he would be saving DBP????) the day before, but a zenith w flip makes freezin stocks plummet more than a shitcoin

I kind of hadn't actually really put it together before now how important it is that zenith is likely to flip w here
I probably should't have been trusting freezin as much as I have, consider botchi 2nd on my townreads

I genuinely don't know who I have after that
both xel and haku need reevaluation (haku I've literally just been sheeping star, which sucks, I haven't known how to read haku ever since he learned how to post more than 5 times per phase as a wolf)
shado needs proper and firm evaluation, I know that your EOD theatrics make it tougher for you to be W

zenith wolfier than dbp but it REALLY feels like they are both W, maybe it is just freezin as the third and freezin is going to have a much harder game moving forward

posting this in the interest of time