TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Pulling the curtain back on this a bit, none of my posts have had anything but surface level analysis and tone reads and reactions to events in real time. That is to say, there is very little solving there. All my posts have done really is project town due to volume and stream of consciousness. You can go back an iso me you'll probably not find a single post that quotes more than 1 post or any iso's on other players. I'm playing in a way that is pretty selfish. I can check the thread frequently in small doses but I have yet to devote time to analysis.

I'm not saying to discount what I'm saying because those reads I make on other players arnt fabricated or anything, they just arnt grounded in hard evidence. There have been several times where I could've taken my reads to the next level by doing hard detective work and I didn't. That's what I meant by laziness

I'm going to try to correct that before eod

then your play hasnt been town sided at all. self admittedly, its projection.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Pulling the curtain back on this a bit, none of my posts have had anything but surface level analysis and tone reads and reactions to events in real time. That is to say, there is very little solving there. All my posts have done really is project town due to volume and stream of consciousness. You can go back an iso me you'll probably not find a single post that quotes more than 1 post or any iso's on other players. I'm playing in a way that is pretty selfish. I can check the thread frequently in small doses but I have yet to devote time to analysis.

I'm not saying to discount what I'm saying because those reads I make on other players arnt fabricated or anything, they just arnt grounded in hard evidence. There have been several times where I could've taken my reads to the next level by doing hard detective work and I didn't. That's what I meant by laziness

I'm going to try to correct that before eod

genuinely this is a good tactic in champs just to try and keep up with everything if you're on limited time
do like a few isos of important people in the beginning, try to nail a wolf, and you'll truly be fine

sprinkle in some pseudointellectual bullshit if you roll wolf and make it look like you're doing more work and you can literally just even bullshit through a game

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

freezin idk what this says about my estimation of you but it doesn't feel like there's really been any grand departure
are you really a big ISOing play in general? maybe once you've truly picked a target in my mind, you might be
that's about it, though

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

genuinely this is a good tactic in champs just to try and keep up with everything if you're on limited time
do like a few isos of important people in the beginning, try to nail a wolf, and you'll truly be fine

sprinkle in some pseudointellectual bullshit if you roll wolf and make it look like you're doing more work and you can literally just even bullshit through a game

are you bullshitting

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

then your play hasnt been town sided at all. self admittedly, its projection.

Oh no I'm not towny because I was projecting town. Ya got me botchi

Projecting town is a skill you need if you want to be good at TWG. I think you are conflating the word "projection" with "faking". Projecting town is convincing others you are town by your actions.

Hateandhatred has been historically terrible at projecting town and yesterday was just the latest case in point. The reality that he is town was irrelevant at the last eod. What matters is what everyone else thought. Because he couldn't project that he was town, he ended up catching aggro from me and in turn dying because a wagon formed on him

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

freezin idk what this says about my estimation of you but it doesn't feel like there's really been any grand departure
are you really a big ISOing play in general? maybe once you've truly picked a target in my mind, you might be
that's about it, though

You are right, I'm not big into in depth analysis or ISOs in general but I feel like this game requires me to ISO to solve it

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

are you bullshitting

For someone with limited time, it is probably the best they can hope to do
If you harness the power of the unemployed, you can do better, though

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Oh no I'm not towny because I was projecting town. Ya got me botchi

Projecting town is a skill you need if you want to be good at TWG. I think you are conflating the word "projection" with "faking". Projecting town is convincing others you are town by your actions.

Hateandhatred has been historically terrible at projecting town and yesterday was just the latest case in point. The reality that he is town was irrelevant at the last eod. What matters is what everyone else thought. Because he couldn't project that he was town, he ended up catching aggro from me and in turn dying because a wagon formed on him

my b

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

The behavior of an "ideal town player" is a myth that many FFR players have chased to their doom. The reality is town doesn't always act towny. I knew this and even I got baited by hateandhatred. To really find wolves you need to trace players actions to their consequences and look at who stands to gain the most from the results. Wolves playing to their win condition will always reveal themselves in this way given enough time and investigation. Sometimes you can pick this up without doing the hard work of ISOing individual players but this game is not one of those times it seems like, feels like if I just follow my kill order backwards from most to least suspicious I will miss something and we'll lose

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

just at first glance it wasnt right to me. i got you now

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

genuinely this is a good tactic in champs just to try and keep up with everything if you're on limited time
do like a few isos of important people in the beginning, try to nail a wolf, and you'll truly be fine

sprinkle in some pseudointellectual bullshit if you roll wolf and make it look like you're doing more work and you can literally just even bullshit through a game

I really appreciate the advice sunfan, thanks. Still a bit nervous about champs but hearing this from someone who's been there makes me feel a lot better

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

For someone with limited time, it is probably the best they can hope to do
If you harness the power of the unemployed, you can do better, though

I should be clear
Mafiauniverse is a very different environment
Imagine like 7 of me in a game, and they never stop posting as much as me aside from like 1 of them
And then 6 people of differing postcounts

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

my b

It's all good, you weren't wrong and it means a lot you are digesting what I'm saying and forming opinions in real time

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I should be clear
Mafiauniverse is a very different environment
Imagine like 7 of me in a game, and they never stop posting as much as me aside from like 1 of them
And then 6 people of differing postcounts

i think id rather flay myself alive

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Imagine like 7 of me in a game

If I had time I'd edit that picture to say 8 sunfans