TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

botchi

I'm probably a fucking moron

and what the hell ur vote is on me still?

this is the post I was remembering
I should've gone back and checked it before now; I didn't last EOD because I was on mobile and I fucking hate ISOing on mobile but like

I cannot possibly tell you how much more urgent and exasperated this post was in my memory, but clearly, I deserve to be shot instead

idk

I uh
idk that anything I've said about botchi being different holds much weight

I definitely have a memory way back of him overdoing it as a wolf when he was mechanically outed in a game, so there definitely is a fine balance, but like

idk

sorry botchi I'll try to read you better

you can definitely be scum but clearly I need to reset you and put you back at null

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

sidenote, i was a lot more stoned during that game. just saying.

ahhh, right
hitting the j/o confusion

good times

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

botchi

I'm probably a fucking moron



this is the post I was remembering
I should've gone back and checked it before now; I didn't last EOD because I was on mobile and I fucking hate ISOing on mobile but like

I cannot possibly tell you how much more urgent and exasperated this post was in my memory, but clearly, I deserve to be shot instead

idk

I uh
idk that anything I've said about botchi being different holds much weight

I definitely have a memory way back of him overdoing it as a wolf when he was mechanically outed in a game, so there definitely is a fine balance, but like

idk

sorry botchi I'll try to read you better

you can definitely be scum but clearly I need to reset you and put you back at null

that quote is from a different game though. you meant to quote that?

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

well iirc, you turned off your freezin vote because of that post you liked from him. at that point, freezin was going with sunfan on ben. and since sunfan was getting crazed at the end there, im thinking you didnt swap your vote because you didnt want to get caught up in the craziness

?
look at the vote counts I quoted.

at the point I unvoted freezin (and through my vote on benguin), sunfan was on DBP and Freezin was on benguin.
sunfan then moved and started a wagon on YOU and freezin followed (though it doesn't clearly show that in the host's VC, that's what happened), while I stayed on benguin.
my vote on benguin had nothing to do with freezin or sunfan, and them moving on or off the wagon didn't affect me. I was suspicious/skeptical of sunfan at that point so I don't honestly know what your narrative is based on.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

sunfan what do you think about hateandhatred?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

that quote is from a different game though. you meant to quote that?

yes
I was remembering that post of yours from last game, and I was comparing my (mistaken) memory of how desperate and exasperated you sounded in it to your current gameplay

clearly there was something that went haywire in my memory because like
this is zenith levels of mistakenness than I appear to have been

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

sunfan what do you think about hateandhatred?

I learned a lot from Trailer Park Boys (I will qualify this by saying I am not calling you scum with this statement)
the magic 8 ball says to ask again later

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I learned a lot from Trailer Park Boys (I will qualify this by saying I am not calling you scum with this statement)
the magic 8 ball says to ask again later

fine, but let's make a deadline of 3pm EDT tomorrow to get back to me because that's the one slot that I have like nothing at all on

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

fine, but let's make a deadline of 3pm EDT tomorrow to get back to me because that's the one slot that I have like nothing at all on

6 pm, central, at the latest
there's a chance everything fizzles and I have nothing to give you, either, fwiw, so like

idk
there's a chance I just wait a long time and essentially give you a null, so don't expect the world

but [something creative that assuages you and makes you willing to wait]

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I think I'll say for posterity that I'm ok with sunfan this round and think he feels genuine and his thought process is in line with what I would expect from a town greg playing this game today. That's a personal read and not a twg read but it's where my head's been. as a result, I'm in a bit of a dilemma I want to hard read sunfan town, but tbh I'm just wary of locking it in because I don't put anything so far (or maybe ever?) as outside his wolf range. I think he holds this same wariness with me and calls it "past trauma" which makes for an interesting never-quite-town-circle-but-I-want-to-trust-you dynamic, as he's just referenced with the TPB game

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

well, in a way, I have it easier, because I am not at the point where I want to say that I am alright with you this round
but

I think there's definitely like 3 people I would kill before you at absolute minimum (real number probably higher, not going to figure out how high rn)
I guess it isn't even unfair for me to say I "want" to trust you

anyways
what do you think of star's posts specifically today

[star-crossed]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

@star
my take on backpack was kind of the opposite of yours, and it stems from an old history, so bear with me. town!DBP has had, for better or worse, a meta reputation about being "detective backpack" form and that's affected his games as town in a couple of ways that I remember. the first is that when there's too much pressure on him to become his alter ego and overperform in ways that I think are frankly unrealistic a lot of the time, he retreats and does the opposite, but if people just shut up and let the man cook, he can come up with some very solid analyses. I was wary of sunfan making post telling DBP to "do something townie" for that reason, but figured it'd be ok as long as nobody piled on. the second, and more relevant, is that the alter ego gets to his head in some ways and makes him more confident with sharing moonshot theories and big brain 4d chess analyses than most players would be comfortable doing

so I liked it when he came in hot with a moonshot mic drop / wet fart and then started ish with sunfan and began to dig a bit deeper and flesh out thoughts past just the wet fart, it felt genuine and good. what you'll hate to hear is that one of the things that helped bring me to that conclusion was his 100% confident defense of bugkid. his saying that they were basically always town here was a starting point that I felt town!DBP would naturally start from and then work his way up to the larger world he built. it wasn't enough to say he was 100% town, but it was enough to take him off the table for me for the phase.

interestingly, after I made my post about not voting for him, he rescinded his moonshot and I liked that even more because it seemed like he was genuinely forming thoughts as he read along and dove in

with all of that said, I feel like a lot of what I felt yesterday (about everyone, not just DBP) when I wrote my "hot take" post have been overwritten since. even while writing this, I remembered that DBPs wolf capability changed drastically from the "he goes MIA phones it in from all the way UTR" he had for most of my time playing on this site and now I feel like I should stick to my "reset" a lot harder, but it's difficult

Thanks for this context.

As well as that...I actually just realised, I have played with DaBackpack 7 times before this game and out of those we were the same alignment once, which was my very first game on FFR in October 2017, before I was even going by star-crossed. I think I did not put that together until now because I read games I am not in, but apparently he is the FG to my T-Force.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

well, in a way, I have it easier, because I am not at the point where I want to say that I am alright with you this round
but

I think there's definitely like 3 people I would kill before you at absolute minimum (real number probably higher, not going to figure out how high rn)
I guess it isn't even unfair for me to say I "want" to trust you

anyways
what do you think of star's posts specifically today

well keep at it I guess you'll get there with me eventually lol

to answer your question:
I think star is as solidly town as I've ever had anyone. I think she's well outside of her expected wolf range. I would expect her to be able to fake a bunch of solvey posts, sure, but the nuance in emotional responses to how people take wolf!star's fake reads and how she responds to town's reads on her go way past what I think a 2nd time wolf star would be capable of faking. her read on me earlier reinforced this when she was all like "he has me as top town but evidently he thinks my reads are ass backwards" and still had me at null-ish for it. I've never commented on her reads directly, but she seemed genuinely upset that I and everyone else went the other way from what she had put forward. I think a wolf!star just doesn't have that emotional depth even if she was capable of faking the analysis and the effort, which in itself would be an achievement. Her slot is just about the only thing I'm confident on in this game.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

anyways
what do you think of star's posts specifically today

anyways
what do you think of star's posts specifically today?

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

anyways
what do you think of star's posts specifically today?

nevermind I guess you answered this earlier. can you elaborate now on what it was that you were "looking for" and how it is different today vs d0?