TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[bugkid666]

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i'm headed to bed now but hopefully i'll be able to comment here and there during work tomorrow. i should be completely free around 5:30pm server time

[FreezinIce]

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When I get off work tomorrow I'm booting up my computer and actually playing the game. I'm tired of this phone posting crap

[FreezinIce]

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i really hate dbp's re-entry today

Tbh I find DBPs behavior baffling. He comes in near eod yesterday very confident. That is not uncommon in games I've played with him. He does some deduction and comes to a conclusion (one I disagreed with but at least I could see why he believed it himself). Then he ended up being wrong. This is also not uncommon and I don't fault him super heavily for being wrong itself (at least before I look into why it happened) because if you are a shot caller you need to be prepared to own your shot right or wrong.

In games in the past he's been wrong and bounced back, maybe a post or 2 as an admission of making a mistake, analyzing what was wrong and moving on.

I have NEVER seen him completely fold over like this after a wrong call. He seemed absolutely devastated and I am sort of at a loss as to what to make of this

Do you have any insight? You said you hate it which I guess I agree with but I want to know what you think is motivating this

[Hakulyte]

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Yeah, as you said, the call itself is not even bad. There's nothing "wolfy" about voting out Ben here based on how the game unfolded.

It's just the how that's completely throwing me off here.

If you want to play devil's advocate, the question would be; why would DBP plays this out as town the way he did.

That's probably more a question for DBP than you tbh.

[Hakulyte]

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I know you asked bugkid, but I think bugkid has a different reason than me.

[FreezinIce]

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Yeah, as you said, the call itself is not even bad. There's nothing "wolfy" about voting out Ben here based on how the game unfolded.

It's just the how that's completely throwing me off here.

If you want to play devil's advocate, the question would be; why would DBP plays this out as town the way he did.

That's probably more a question for DBP than you tbh.

Yeah i don't mind you answering @ your latest post. I'm just trying to make sense of it. I also hate that I have to ask myself if DBPs meltdown was performative. As for why he would play it out like this as town, there isn't much reason. But there also isnt much reason to do it as a wolf unless you are trying to distract from something. It just seemed completely out of left field so that's why I'm wanting to know if I'm missing something about his play style or what he did

[Hakulyte]

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hot take:
wolves are freezin and raeko and one in zenith/sunfan

I'm never voting star, backpack, or haku this phase, and by extension I'm following backpack's read on bug and not voting bug either

benguino and botchi and hateandhatred I know very little about and are pretty solidly null in my head despite a decent amount of AI content from benguin

Hey Freezin, what do you make of Shado ?

I feel like I'm watching someone from another planet.

If I'm wrong on DBP, it could mean that star/DBP/me are all wrong about each other based on his post.
I don't even get how he constructs his reads.
I'm also town reading you while he wanted to vote you.

We're so at opposites reading wise that it makes me feel like my reads have to be wrong if I read him at surface level.

[FreezinIce]

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Hey Freezin, what do you make of Shado ?

I feel like I'm watching someone from another planet.

If I'm wrong on DBP, it could mean that star/DBP/me are all wrong about each other based on his post.
I don't even get how he constructs his reads.
I'm also town reading you while he wanted to vote you.

We're so at opposites reading wise that it makes me feel like my reads have to be wrong if I read him at surface level.

I didn't dedicate a ton of time reading his posts, he wasn't really mixed up in what was happening at eod, he was kind of doing his own thing. I think he was right to sus me when he did because I was playing like trash for a while and trying 4d chess moves that don't make much sense, and his progression in that respect was very logical so he gets points there. His entrance reminds me kind of like DBPs, he seemed come out and knew exactly where he wanted to go with his pressure rather than hang out in the thread lost like a lot of other people.

So mix all that together and you have him at somewhat null for me but I feel like there's stuff there to solve when I get the time to look. A lot more than for DBP at least

[FreezinIce]

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I think fundamentally we are approaching the game differently Haku but our solving will probably converge as time goes on. Early on I'm much less detail oriented and I operate a lot based on vibes, but reads and reactions. While you seem to be trying to put everyone into groups and do some behavioural analysis on what makes sense for people to do based on what they are saying/what they know.

They are pretty much opposite ends of solving but I don't think either is wrong, and I feel like we both end up consuming thread content and making good reads later in the game when there is less white noise to sift thru.

What I'm trying to say is don't get too stressed out if something happens that you don't understand or feel like you need to solve everything right now

[FreezinIce]

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But > gut

Phone posting

[FreezinIce]

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Hm going thru eod again shado kind of reads like a wolf

[FreezinIce]

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This can be my vote till I look into it more but I feel a lot less good about him on the reread than I remember

[FreezinIce]

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A lot of comments on things happening as they pass by him but not a lot of personal assertion or trying to act with purpose. If that makes sense to anyone but me...

[Hakulyte]

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I hope anyone with less than 30 posts finds the time to post a little more because that's starting to be a huge roadblock here to come to conclusions that has a chance to be right.

Talking about Zenith/botchi/Xel/H&H.

@botchi
Please address the voting part and where you're at now.

@Xel / Zenith
Pls just give reads or general vibes so I can have a better idea of your headspace.

@H&H
If you can look into the ben interactions for the "info" you wanted, that'd be great.

[Hakulyte]

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@Shado
If you can go a little more in-depth with your reads I think it could be interesting for the group. I feel like you have the most diverging opinions.