TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

[star-crossed]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

Is sleep an option?

Why did you want to know this?

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

also lol if this was a subtle hint early D1

That at the time was me still showing hesitance on fully trusting either of y'all's reads. If I remember right that was before we all started hashing that out. This makes no sense to me lmao

[Tps222]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

That at the time was me still showing hesitance on fully trusting either of y'all's reads. If I remember right that was before we all started hashing that out. This makes no sense to me lmao

this was before anyone claimed at all, it was d1 before you voted freezing.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

this would require him being a wolf and having a role-blocking power, which is possible but makes things complicated for sure.

Cuz yeah star if TPS tracked them, found they didn't visit anyone, how are they a hypothetical ninja AND a roleblocker at the same time

[SubaruPoptart]

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this was before anyone claimed at all, it was d1 before you voted freezing.

That's my bad in that case lmao, I'm just sayin it feels a lil strange that this is where you're going. I feel like on top of that if I was "hinting" at anything my whole spiel on why I thought Blind was a bad choice to nk is moreof a hint thanthat

[star-crossed]

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Cuz yeah star if TPS tracked them, found they didn't visit anyone, how are they a hypothetical ninja AND a roleblocker at the same time

I do not understand this question sorry?

I thought that investigative roles such as tracker were supposed to not get any result if they are blocked. So e.g. for a seer, they would not be told any result or would be told they are blocked. A tracker would not be told, say, the target went nowhere - they would not get info one way or the other. e.g. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker

Since TPS seemed to claim he got a result of Nakah not going anywhere and I am believing his claim for aforementioned reasons, I was trying to work backwards to what a wolf role power would be if not blocker (...so that blind's role can at least find of the two wolves). A ninja, which is immune to trackers, or something that can achieve a similar effect, is a possible power that would produce the elegance of having one investigative role be able to find each wolf basically. They can both also find the other blue role as a sort of false positive or extra info depending how they interpret it.

[star-crossed]

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Another common wolf role besides a blocker is a role cop which helps the wolves more reliably narrow down the blue roles. It does seems to me more gimmicky in this case to have only investigative roles in the setup on both sides rather than a way for the wolves to actually disrupt the blues? So I do not like this theory as much personally despite acknowledging the potential of it

[star-crossed]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

To be honest in hindsight it is a bit unfortunate this is a mystery game because with people having varying levels of familiarity with what to expect with roles, it is kind of more complicated than it normally would be.

[SubaruPoptart]

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I do not understand this question sorry?

I thought that investigative roles such as tracker were supposed to not get any result if they are blocked. So e.g. for a seer, they would not be told any result or would be told they are blocked. A tracker would not be told, say, the target went nowhere - they would not get info one way or the other. e.g. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker

Since TPS seemed to claim he got a result of Nakah not going anywhere and I am believing his claim for aforementioned reasons, I was trying to work backwards to what a wolf role power would be if not blocker (...so that blind's role can at least find of the two wolves). A ninja, which is immune to trackers, or something that can achieve a similar effect, is a possible power that would produce the elegance of having one investigative role be able to find each wolf basically. They can both also find the other blue role as a sort of false positive or extra info depending how they interpret it.

Yeah i was misunderstanding the mechanics there again.

[star-crossed]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

I am probably going to end up voting for Jinx on this day.

Who I have kind of gone back and forth on throughout the game. Part of this is that we have different approaches to the game, and I have perhaps gone between allowing for this too much and too little. I did read a bit of that game with Freezin. She would have used more reaction tests and such in that, but also was not having to spend so much energy learning a new site, so I was not sure that was really telling.

I think she can be a wolf who was looking to place a bit of pressure on Freezin on d0 and set up to not look out they are together, which he ended up actually not having much time to respond to, which gave less options to pivot out of it. I see it as more likely that that type of approach went awry when she dozed and the Subaru snipe came in at the very end, then that the wolves turned on each other.

I think the other most likely to be a wolf is Nakah and I really need to get a better understanding from Nakah of how they are reading the game if they are town. I was hoping to see more back and forth with them and the people they know best yesterday, for this.

I am willing to hear objections to my process of elimination though. I do not think I make it to 3am but I will refresh for a bit anyways. (I might make it to 3am because I want to know if it is over......)

[star-crossed]

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OK so it's exactly what I thought would go down

TPS who/what'd you get if anything

Very possible we're in that 3rd roleblocker world

I also kinda don't get why the wolf would kill blind of anyone. Very much expected to wake up dead myself. Had a death post lined up and everything.

Assuming between those two it actually was TPS, they'd have that shield of uncertainty between two roles that we can't discern fuck all:tm: about who's telling the truth. Blind as the nightkill is the worst option from that point of view to me. It was prolly gonna end up that one of you two was dying regardless of what went down but I'm still super confused it wasn't a vote that did it. I personally think this confirms you to be the other PR but I gotta wait til y'all come back before I can bounce stuff off in that respect.

Sorry, what do you mean with "it's exactly what I thought would go down?"

[SubaruPoptart]

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I had been saying pretty much most of the phase before that that either one pr was getting wolf shot, which is imo the worst option they could've done for reasons I said beginning of phase.

I had outlined my potential universes we were in, Blind getting shot and flipping pr was exactly one of my worlds I outlined and thus far with what tps has reported out it was going exactly like I figured it'd go; they were both blue and the wolf is somehow outside of jinx/nakah/bone.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

Or rather outside of just Naka and bone, my bad. Out with friends and im tryna type fast cuz I'm on phone and distracted

[TWG Jeff Probst]

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Vote Count

Subaru (1) - TPS
Jinx (1) - star-crossed

Not voting: Jinx, Subaru, Lakeshore

[Lahkesis]

Re: TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

This day has been hellaaa slowww broooooOoOo