TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

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  • leetic
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2020
    • 7

    #436
    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by Arapocalypse
    Interesting!!!! Yeah, I'd certainly agree with not seeing that, at least!!

    Anyone else want to second this thought on Hate? Leetic, any meta thoughts?
    I only have direct experience with MML (two games) and Haku (one game) (and the now-dead raeko and roundbox) so I can't really help there

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    • Arapocalypse
      FFR Player
      • May 2021
      • 11

      #437
      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by leetic
      Currently, from towniest to least towny I'd go maybe MML, you, Haku, Hate? (sunfan doesn't have enough posts to be fair to rank although the first impression here isn't super great) MML does look very much like his town self from meta and he is a player who is incredibly stubborn so I won't hold the Weiss push against him too much although I'm not entirely sure why they went bugkid over Hate. Haku is just a bit confusing, I'm not really understanding his thought process at all and while that is true for his town play I can't exactly clear him as I've never seen his wolf game (some meta would help maybe but I only trust it that much). The only reason why I didn't switch to Hate earlier last day was because I didn't want to insta early (thanks for preventing that, raeko) but that said I feel he should be given the chance to at least say something today. As for you, I suppose your posts do look genuine, I think some of the pushes on you may be due to culture clash.
      Interesting, can you elaborate on the bolded? While I obviously disagree with Haku's read on me, I think they've been extremely transparent about their thought processes/how they're getting to the reads they are, at least!!!


      Also, where are you at team-wise, if you've thought about it much yet?



      And yeah it's not uncommon that I see surprisingly high expectations when I play in a new place, but it's usually for different reasons; a lot of it do just be unfamiliarity, though!!! :P

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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #438
        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

        Leetic, you're in the correct headspace if you think my thinking process is confusing. I'm literally thinking out loud as I post.

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 7

          #439
          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by Arapocalypse
          Interesting, can you elaborate on the bolded? While I obviously disagree with Haku's read on me, I think they've been extremely transparent about their thought processes/how they're getting to the reads they are, at least!!!


          Also, where are you at team-wise, if you've thought about it much yet?



          And yeah it's not uncommon that I see surprisingly high expectations when I play in a new place, but it's usually for different reasons; a lot of it do just be unfamiliarity, though!!! :P
          He's been transparent about his thought processes sure, but it's those thought processes themselves that are confusing.

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 7

            #440
            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

            And ninja'd lol

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            • Hakulyte
              the Haku
              • Jul 2005
              • 4697

              #441
              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

              I haven't played a mafia game in over a year. I wouldn't be surprised if others are playing differently from back then.

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              • Arapocalypse
                FFR Player
                • May 2021
                • 11

                #442
                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                If you're all town and I'm just playing like garbage (which is statistically likely)

                There's a wagonomic world where MML tries to save Hate with wagonomics if you look at the EoD.
                Technically I get where you're coming from, but it feels unlikely because if I recall correctly, he did talk about townreading Hate multiple times already anyways?

                In short, just feels like it would be a bit too blatant, and also it would be much easier to just go on Bug in the first place when there was more interest there regardless!!!

                That being said, I'm going to stop getting distracted and actually do that EoD reread now; back in a bit!!!!!

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                • Hakulyte
                  the Haku
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4697

                  #443
                  Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by Arapocalypse
                  Technically I get where you're coming from, but it feels unlikely because if I recall correctly, he did talk about townreading Hate multiple times already anyways?
                  Why would you not town read your wolf partner ?


                  I'm just asking in case it helps you reach some sort of conclusion.

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                  • Hakulyte
                    the Haku
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4697

                    #444
                    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                    Wolf MML is kinda sneaky and plays decently close of his town game. It's like he has a good grasp of checking who's paying attention to him.

                    If I was a wolf MML, I'd be pretty happy with my game right now.

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                    • Arapocalypse
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2021
                      • 11

                      #445
                      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      I guess I don't have a good defense for keeping Hate alive but I don't know if I like it

                      I think if we're giving any underwhelming player a second phase it would be him
                      Okay it wasn't as fleshed out as I remember, and I did ask him to elaborate but he said he'd be gone for a bit right after this so I'm not sure if he ever saw my post!!!!!

                      Hmm... the first sentence feels not w/w in a "they'd at least make up some reason to defend them right?" manner, but the second sentence does give very "let's just give them another day" vibes as that is literally what it's saying!!!

                      (I do think the rest of his posting has been fine, but also only 6 players left and everything/I think there's a very high chance I'm wrong on at least one person!!!)

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                      • Arapocalypse
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2021
                        • 11

                        #446
                        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        Why would you not town read your wolf partner ?


                        I'm just asking in case it helps you reach some sort of conclusion.
                        I totally would, just like... the way he went about it is still very blatant if that makes sense?

                        That's where I was at previously, anyway; do want to check if he returned to talking about Hate after he returned though!!!

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                        • Hakulyte
                          the Haku
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #447
                          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                          After reading the roundbox/raeko posts, I'm leaning toward a H&H/Sunfan team.

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                          • Hakulyte
                            the Haku
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 4697

                            #448
                            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                            lol I'm sussing Sunfan over the single basis that I think he's the only player who would have figured roundbox was blue smh.

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                            • leetic
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 7

                              #449
                              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by Hakulyte
                              lol I'm sussing Sunfan over the single basis that I think he's the only player who would have figured roundbox was blue smh.
                              TMI?

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                              • Arapocalypse
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2021
                                • 11

                                #450
                                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                                What does that even mean? My only strong conviction is that I don't want MML to die today and that the same applies to roundbox. I specifically said this is a voting thoughts list, not a reads list, I have no reads right now, and the best I can do about that is apologize

                                Calling anything here a "strong conviction" is a horrible misrepresentation of what I'm saying lol
                                [edited out the response to the other quote]
                                Noting that unless Hate/MixMasterLar are just hard aligning here, I think they're not aligned; the way Hate talks about MixMasterLar is like... even if Hate is mafia, then I feel like it's more likely to be TMI that MixMasterLar is town here, rather than MixMasterLar being their partner; also just a bit too blatant!!!!

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