TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

You literally were arguing why roundbox was not an optimal kill and zenith said you were wrong and gave reasons you proceeded to ignore

You have this backwards, and I've even pointed it out to you lol

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

You have this backwards, and I've even pointed it out to you lol

Yes but then why do your posts also say the opposite?

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Yes but then why do your posts also say the opposite?

They don't. Not to be rude here, but is English your first language? It seems you aren't interpreting them correctly. MML, Raeko, and Zenith all said they weren't contradictory lol

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Ok I’m checking back too and idk how you expect zenith to give new ideas when you write as many as you can think of in one post

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

They don't. Not to be rude here, but is English your first language? It seems you aren't interpreting them correctly. MML, Raeko, and Zenith all said they weren't contradictory lol

It is sorry. I can only say basic words in other languages besides a semi f word equivalent in polish

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

I'm not sure what benefits you're talking about here? The main things a wolf could achieve by leaving roundbox alive would be promoting paranoia on whether they're real, seeing if anyone counterclaims, and possibly eliminating a bigger threat, but your post appears to argue that having a clear is good for the wolf for some reason?

Not benefits but beneficial outcomes and one of them is the one you described with leaving him alive and promoting paranoia

Like you act like there are a million benefits to having a clear

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Like when you list everything you can think of why do you expect zenith to have a bunch of new ideas?

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Ok I’m checking back too and idk how you expect zenith to give new ideas when you write as many as you can think of in one post

Zenith: "Not killing roundbox would cause positive outcomes for the wolf."
leetic: "What positive outcomes? I mean, if I made that move as a wolf, I would try to take advantage of paranoia of roundbox being fake yada yada yada..."
Zenith: "Well, like you said, it could help promote paranoia, but also other positive outcomes."

Paraphrased but you get the point. This is the part that I take issue with, in that Zenith is making bold statements but not having the substance to back it up and when called out just tries to cover by using my ideas.

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Zenith stop lurking tbh it makes me paranoid

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Yeah, I don't know where I got the idea that Raeko was suspecting Zenith

Off of one line that reads

"...and said Zenith and Xel have been wolfy..."

Go ahead and find me the post the claims I am wolfing or a red lean.

Your quotes in context have me at "suspicious" at best, maybe dirty is better, but not red. It is appealing to the continued "consensus" multiple people operated off of during that phase and a little into D2.

I don't know how to answer a lack of game solving from my perspective, part of it is due to I have a life outside of this thread, that requires attention and time, and thus my activity has been lackluster (this is actually why I signed up as a replacement first). I feel increasingly confident that you are the wolf here because I truly think you succeeded in deepwolfing. Putting yourself at center is risky but is very managable for someone with strong social skills (which imo you've presented in this game), but you did a good enough job that people leaned you town and you were able to run with it. If I had to choose you or Haze as wolf here, it's extremely difficult for me to see a world where Wolf Haze kept me alive in F3, not impossible, but comparing it to you, I really only see you doing it and pulling it off.

I'm not sure how much "fighting" they were doing when they acquiesced to almost every point I made with them. They were the one saying how not killing roundbox was the optimal option (but weren't able to say who they'd kill instead), and when pressed for why the only answer that they didn't copy from me was that they could pocket roundbox (but roundbox wolfread them lol). I think you're focused on the wrong side of the convo here.

Lets back up here because this is another example of you clearly reading something wrong.

First, you asked me who I would kill in the night, my response to you is my own opinion, it is not a statement that it was optimal or not optimal.

I personally would not have killed roundbox because I would have taken my chances with him alive, and yet again on correcting you, he did not have any case against me or negative feelings towards me, he parked his vote between Xel and I (which I quoted, feel free to reread and try to get it correct again) which were consensus votes (and both wagons for D1).

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

If you are latching onto me saying Roundbox was the safest kill, that too is an opinion, but I'm confident that its obvious and others felt the same way too.

[Haze with a Z]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Zenith: "Not killing roundbox would cause positive outcomes for the wolf."
leetic: "What positive outcomes? I mean, if I made that move as a wolf, I would try to take advantage of paranoia of roundbox being fake yada yada yada..."
Zenith: "Well, like you said, it could help promote paranoia, but also other positive outcomes."

Paraphrased but you get the point. This is the part that I take issue with, in that Zenith is making bold statements but not having the substance to back it up and when called out just tries to cover by using my ideas.

Yes but even trying to come up with all benefits the only thing new I can come up with is that you can kill whoever you want and set yourself up for the f3 with one unchanging variable. Which then again does rely on roundbox tring the wolf enough to not instant vote them in f3 tbh.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Like you act like there are a million benefits to having a clear

Oh, you quoted the exchange I was talking about, helpful. Zenith is the one acting like there are benefits to having a clear; I am arguing that if roundbox was left alive it would be beneficial to promote the idea that they're not clear.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

Zenith stop lurking tbh it makes me paranoid

Yeah so one time I checked on my phone like two hours after I posted and it still said I was viewing the thread.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

If you are latching onto me saying Roundbox was the safest kill, that too is an opinion, but I'm confident that its obvious and others felt the same way too.

You said you would have killed anyone other than roundbox lol