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  • XelNya
    [Kaho]
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2012
    • 3369

    #1891
    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

    Originally posted by the sun fan
    Votecount:
    raeko (1)- kappa
    xiz (3)- choof, freezin, Haku
    cedolad (2)- Xel, shadow_god
    force (1)- fg
    celery (2)- roundbox, DBP
    storn (2)- bugkid, plop
    unvote- Xiz
    I do not have a Cedo vote.

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    • DaBackpack
      ~ お ま ん こ ~
      • Mar 2014
      • 918

      #1892
      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

      Originally posted by FreezinIce
      kappa

      Sorry everyone that was too filthy. Dont care if im throwing my vote away im going with my gut
      Freezin votes Kappa once Kappa votes for Ben.

      Freezin was on Ben, Kappa voted Ben, then Freezin dissociated himself from Ben and onto Kappa

      There is a lot of action surrounding Ben and Kappa


      Originally posted by Moogy
      no one cares
      Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
      there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
      that's kind of a sad statistic

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      • Shadow_God_10
        Somewhere, but not here
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 2226

        #1893
        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

        Originally posted by storn42
        I've been talking to him all game. His confusion and everything else is bery towny. Doesnt give me the vibe of someone who wants to kill me as a sleep.
        Confusion about what?

        Has anything stood out in particular?

        We now know we can give details from our respective chats to the class so sharing would benefit everyone here if you're gonna just toss this read out like that.

        Originally posted by Svaz
        more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        TIL women have breasts because of horniness
        Originally posted by bugkid666
        sunfan I fucked up
        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
        Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
        your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
        Originally posted by DaBackpack
        might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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        • DaBackpack
          ~ お ま ん こ ~
          • Mar 2014
          • 918

          #1894
          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

          Originally posted by Hakulyte
          This tends to lead to dead end lynches with poor info, but I understand the sentiment.
          why did you make this post, Haku?


          Originally posted by Moogy
          no one cares
          Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
          there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
          that's kind of a sad statistic

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          • benguino
            Kawaii Desu Ne?
            • Dec 2007
            • 4190

            #1895
            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

            Originally posted by roundbox
            I extend a word of caution to everyone trying to metagame this mystery setup
            I can believe Xiz when he says he's willing to take one for the team for science, but it rubs me the wrong way in spirit (mostly because of IRL time commitment capabilities). I don't like it when there's a prescribed "this is how we have to progress with this setup" plan because WE ARE STILL MISSING SO MUCH INFORMATION

            I think playing it by the book will grant us more results than sciencing the setup. If anything, sunfan is sitting at his computer cracking a grin at some of our theories (reminds me of watching people scramble for the hidden immunity idol in Survivor: Newfoundland) because we're close, but not quite fully correct. The gap in information can lead to bad actors who have more information to steer the "science" in a direction that is opportune for them. Granted our setup is massive, this information gap steering could be more likely than you think given how many anti-town realistically exist.
            I somewhat agree with some of these points but we seem to be arriving at different conclusions. You're right that there is a huge lack of information in this game but my takeaway from that is that we should do what we can to gather information; this is why I was pushing so hard on having an insta happen in the 2nd game (which unfortunately told us nothing, but I still think it was a good idea and I don't believe there was much of anything lost as a result of the insta).

            I'm worried that people will interpret this post to mean that we should all entirely ignore the 2nd game and pretend it doesn't exist. It seems that some people are already in this mindset and it feels incredibly shortsighted. Voting off a wolf in this game doesn't even have the same consequence as usual, so trying to play this game 100% like a "normal" game and hoping it'll work out is wishful thinking imho.

            Trying to figure out who is or isn't scum is still just as important, but even this aspect of the game requires insight into the overall game structure. One can't fully understand people's motivations/actions/intent/etc if one isn't willing to engage with the full game.

            Originally posted by bugkid666
            this reads very town to me, but I don't think I ever had much doubt about mcdaddio tbh. I will say, am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about neighborhood relations? I'm sure other people feel this way too but just aren't vocalizing it... I barely know what y'all are saying about blind and charu and I don't know what their chatlog consists of but do we really think that's the reason blind got night killed? I personally don't think so
            If something goes down in a neighborhood chat, I think it's worth at least keeping it in the back of your mind.

            As for the neighborhoods in general, I would put them as low priority compared to everything else in the game. To me, the neighborhoods are essentially "a chatroom with someone who may or may not be wolf" and I don't think they'll serve much use, at least not in this stage of the game.

            Originally posted by fatfuck42
            So, I know these "charts" aren't particularly accurate since the time isn't a constant, but it still gives a good idea as to how and when each wagon formed or dissolved.







            I don't see any real issues with Ben's wagon. I believe raeko's explanation for why she joined the wagon, and I believe freezin too since he took the same issues with ben's posts that I did. You could potentially say that choof and kappa's votes could be wolves parking a vote, but I'm still townreading choof hard and kappa's progression seems organic.

            Logman's wagon is harder to parse. It develops naturally enough, but kappa's the only one who unvotes. Everyone else goes to logman and stays there. If logman/star are town then it'd be a great wagon for a lowkey wolf to join. Logman was inactive, so there's not much justification needed to vote for them. On the other hand, if logman/star are a wolf then the people on this wagon look pretty good. I don't know what each person's history of bussing wolf partners is like, but each of them were in the thread right up til the end and could've switched off of logman if needed.

            Haku's wagon doesn't look so hot. There's gotta be wolves in there IMO. As for the motivation, if you look at the votecounts in the minutes prior, it seems as though it was to save either ben or logman.
            This is all really helpful, thank you.
            AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


            Originally posted by Spenner
            (^)> peck peck says the heels
            Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
            And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
            Originally posted by Zakvvv666
            awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2006
              • 6207

              #1896
              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              We might have to consolidate wagon and decide either xiz or storn rather than splitting votes.
              If it's between those two, then I'll most likely choose storn over Xiz.

              Sorry, Xiz just doesn't scream some kind of anti-town to me with his desire to get voted. Plus there's the fact that he wants to get voted, which that in itself can be some kind of hidden motive.

              I just don't believe wasting a phase for someone because they want to "experiment" with the second game is a practical idea. Not unless it somehow helps town in some way anyways, and he hasn't said anything to that effect.


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • Hakulyte
                the Haku
                • Jul 2005
                • 4697

                #1897
                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                Originally posted by DaBackpack
                why did you make this post, Haku?
                I want to priorize people on my wagon as a priority.

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                • bugkid666
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 14

                  #1898
                  Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                  Originally posted by Charu
                  If it's between those two, then I'll most likely choose storn over Xiz.

                  Sorry, Xiz just doesn't scream some kind of anti-town to me with his desire to get voted. Plus there's the fact that he wants to get voted, which that in itself can be some kind of hidden motive.

                  I just don't believe wasting a phase for someone because they want to "experiment" with the second game is a practical idea. Not unless it somehow helps town in some way anyways, and he hasn't said anything to that effect.
                  i'm not mad about this, i think at the moment i'd rather vote storn over xiz anyways (for this reason)

                  Originally posted by FreezinIce
                  me being partners with the wolf fruit vendor is also hilarious
                  Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                  IM ON RED LOBSTER PUBLIC WIFI

                  they/them

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                  • benguino
                    Kawaii Desu Ne?
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 4190

                    #1899
                    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                    Gonna try to set up my computer here and I'll share a bit about my thoughts on the insta. I've been mostly using my phone this time and it's been ass lol
                    AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino


                    Originally posted by Spenner
                    (^)> peck peck says the heels
                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
                    Originally posted by Zakvvv666
                    awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing

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                    • Shadow_God_10
                      Somewhere, but not here
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2226

                      #1900
                      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                      Bolthy I see you my guy.

                      I am incredibly sad you aren't here with us

                      Originally posted by Svaz
                      more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
                      Originally posted by mellon_collie
                      TIL women have breasts because of horniness
                      Originally posted by bugkid666
                      sunfan I fucked up
                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

                      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                      your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
                      Originally posted by DaBackpack
                      might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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                      • XelNya
                        [Kaho]
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3369

                        #1901
                        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                        Fuck it I'm choosing violence today

                        Storn

                        I ain't scared or worried anymore. I'm annoyed that you're coasting right now
                        Alright let me slap the stupid out you

                        this vote is bad for the reasons you give in this post in particular

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                        • Hakulyte
                          the Haku
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4697

                          #1902
                          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                          Gonna follow bugkid with the Storn vote.

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #1903
                            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            I do not have a Cedo vote.
                            I'll try out celery's name out in future votecounts
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • DaBackpack
                              ~ お ま ん こ ~
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 918

                              #1904
                              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              Votecount:
                              storn (1)- Xel
                              ben (4)- fatfuck, raeko, choof, kappa
                              DBP (1)- bugkid
                              subaru (1)- Xiz
                              gold stinger (1)- storn
                              fg (1)- shadow_god
                              logman (5)- gold stinger, haku, charu, ben, fg
                              Haku (1)- Subaru
                              shadow_god (1)- dbp
                              xiz (1)- Mcdaddio
                              Mcdaddio (1)- Celery
                              Kappa (3)- Force, cedo, Freezin
                              unvote- roundbox
                              this votecount at T-2 minutes seems to be the critical moment before the Haku wagon.

                              blind votes Haku.
                              Force leaves Kappa, goes to Haku.
                              roundbox leaves unvote, goes to Haku.

                              The Haku wagon SEEMS to be one to defend Kappa, primarily.

                              Then: why not Logman?
                              Because that would be too obvious.
                              Then: why not Ben?
                              Ben might actually be a wolf too. But what is weird is that Kappa is on Ben. Hmm.

                              On the Logman wagon: FG, Charu, and Ben look sus at this point in time.


                              Originally posted by Moogy
                              no one cares
                              Originally posted by TWG Dan Hedgehog
                              there are 743 matches for hedgehog suicide on deviantart
                              that's kind of a sad statistic

                              Comment

                              • XelNya
                                [Kaho]
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3369

                                #1905
                                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                I'll try out celery's name out in future votecounts
                                hahahahahahaha

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