TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

The next few posts are pondering about Ulleabhara's past experience and then just saying "sounds suss" to various other posts people make so omg.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Subaru, before this train gets hilariously off the tracks
you do know that you're replacing FG, right?

Y e p.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Raeko's also Jared for some reason so I'm kinda lost at page 10 ngl.

From what I can gather, most of the discussion has been attempting to overanalyze Haku's first objection page, and YoshL just jumped in at this point

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

OK on the note of the phase, how many hours from now do it end? Has a time change happened yet? I don't feel like having a repeat of last time.

It's 9PM server tonight, so just shy of 7.5hrs. Best of luck!

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I'm feeling good about subaru already.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I'm feeling good about subaru already.

Good as in he's a hit?

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Good as in he's a hit?

Opposite. Good as in he's off to a townie start.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Opposite. Good as in he's off to a townie start.

Hmm... maybe?

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Mechanical stuff – a lot of this is just me getting my head in the game, but if anyone has some strategic insights, please share!

Blues (random pick 2)

• Phoenix: Seer
• Maya: Guardian/Vigilante (1 action per Night) + Miller
• Blue!Miles: Wizard + Ballot Stuffer? (We had this “plus-or-minus” vote role on the late home site but never came up with a good name for it)
• Trucy: 1-Shot Sniper (Another one we struggled with, “Elite Bodyguard” and “Trapper” also floated around, but I much prefer “Sniper”)
• Ema: Watcher/Tracker (Chooses pregame/N0)

Maya is potentially an OP combo, and I don’t think the Miller aspect does much to dampen it – unless, of course, Phoenix is in the game and we just pile on any red seering without thinking. This dictates that we should in fact not do that, especially with the possibility of Manfred in the game, which I will get to shortly.

Blue!Miles is a weird role, and I don’t think the vote-manipulation aspect of him is too useful. Sure, blocking a kill is a pretty strong “either-or” indication on your target’s alignment, but since you have to decide whether to plus or minus them at Night – that is, before you get your result and have any opportunity to sort them – I’d say it’s generally a bad idea to use it unless you have a strong opinion on your target beforehand.

Trucy has the potential to be a very effective “Sword of Damocles” against the wolf team going for a freshly-exposed Blue. With that in mind, if she exists, she should definitely wait for such an opportunity to arise to use her power.

I don’t see any reason for Ema not to choose Watcher. I hope she did if she’s in the game. It’s an easier guessing game and a greater potential reward. But if she chose Tracker, I guess we’ll have to deal.

Power Wolves (random pick 2)

• Manfred: Night 0 Permanent Framer
• Franziska: Revoker, Non-Consecutive Target (haven’t seen this particular modifier before)
• Red!Miles: Restricted Phantom Giver/Gambler (Restricted meaning both actions must be on the same target)
  
  • Reward Sequence: MW status, 1-shot Revoke, 1-Shot Vigi
• Matt: Master/Alpha, until kill invalidates (gotta say, I’m loving the creativity here)
• Kristoph: 1-Shot Stealth Killer

The potential existence of Manfred alone is a big reason why we should let red seerings breathe, and give the accused a chance to claim before throwing down the hammer. Sure, there’s always a chance that they are a wolf and luck out on not getting counterclaimed, but honestly, I don’t think any Blue claim in this game is something that a wolf can ride on forever.

Franziska’s restriction is a pretty good bone to throw to us – it means that they can’t permanently shut down a particular role, and actually have to risk wolfing them/hitting protection

Red!Miles has the potential to be a real pain in the fluffball-tail if played well. For example, if Phoenix is rolled along with him and Matt, and he gets his way even once, Phoenix is rendered practically useless because 2/3rds of the wolf team are now undetectable to him. The upside is that they still don’t have specific counters to any other Blue, but that may well change with further successes. With this in play, Wovles might be emboldened to go hard on Miles’ chosen victim during the day, and attempt to force a split vote (or stall at one) if the split contains Miles’ quarry. We need to counter this by calling out any of this behavior, not tolerating last-minute distractions or dead air, and work hard to build consensus with others on the vote.

Now, to the actual game...

I feel this is pretty important but I don't really fully understand it, in all honesty. I'm not quite sure why they used a different font, either-

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Hmm... maybe?

AFAIK he's similar to you in that he doesn't post as much as scum. When we rolled wolf together he only posted twice, whereas here he's already at 9. That's a 450% increase. It makes me optimistic.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

AFAIK he's similar to you in that he doesn't post as much as scum. When we rolled wolf together he only posted twice, whereas here he's already at 9. That's a 450% increase. It makes me optimistic.

Really? He posted a fair bit when he was wolfing in the Turbo I mentioned when Trevor and Funny were town

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

AFAIK he's similar to you in that he doesn't post as much as scum. When we rolled wolf together he only posted twice, whereas here he's already at 9. That's a 450% increase. It makes me optimistic.

Really? He posted a fair bit when he was wolfing in the Turbo I mentioned when Trevor and Funny were town

If it's the turbo I'm thinking of I posted a lot in the beginning yeah but once things were starting to get spicy:tm: I shut tf down.

I believe it was one of my first "full" games too so I'm not really counting that game as really indicative of my playstyle cuz I'm still tryna develop it.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

If it's the turbo I'm thinking of I posted a lot in the beginning yeah but once things were starting to get spicy:tm: I shut tf down.

I believe it was one of my first "full" games too so I'm not really counting that game as really indicative of my playstyle cuz I'm still tryna develop it.

Please don't develop a wolf game. Lying is a horrible trait to have

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I want to vote Ull simply because sunfan wont vote ull for just posting roles.
DBP will show up 20m before EOD
Funny/Force I see as T/W or T/T
haku off the table, feels towny
raeko super light towny, liked the "yeah i thought the same thing" quote, felt natural
YoshL saying "nah this isnt a mindmeld" to sunfan is really towny, so they are off the table

don't really care about anyone else

ulle

I know Xiz is out of the game right now but if I were in at this point it'd make me feel real bad about Xiz.

I can understand the "super light towny" part for Raeko but as of page 12 I haven't identified much from them in terms of like, reads or any kinda prodding.
All I can remember from Raeko is them being "Jared" as of right now.

If I were outside-looking-in at FG's slot, T/T makes some sense, but with how FG was posting even I'm going like T/W would make more sense. I'm still tryna read to find her posts to see what to work with but so far first 12 pages haven't been real good for her. I'd imagine it gets better later on, however.

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

That ule post came across as pretty townie to me. I feel like she'd be more self-conscious about going that deep into mechanics if she were a wolf (since "focusing too much on mechanics" is a popular wolf tell).

Wait that's a wolf tell?

Unrelated though, to expand on my last post regarding Xiz's reads there, I'm not liking FG's posts solely because (from my memory) she was acting a lot like how she was the last game, which she was wolf in. I can totally understand the sus being put on this slot.