08-13-2020, 10:20 AM | #41 |
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There's....a lot to unpack here and truthfully speaking I feel any effort to do so is gonna go unappreciated so I'll just leave it at " hard disagree" and move on.
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08-13-2020, 10:24 AM | #42 | |
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i don't mean to imply that anyone's being racist or sexist but moreso to point at the sociological phenomena that lead us to hold women (and specifically women of color) to different standards. i'm sorry if my opinion offended you, dynam0
and also to those who dislike the song, that doesn't mean you're racist or sexist either. music taste is subjective. you're all free to disagree with my opinion. my take is just my opinion on the song after all, and i'm glad that you guys are engaging with me edit: miley cyrus is actually an interesting counterexample. i'd argue that in the bangerz era she attempted to appropriate black culture as well, but she did so very crudely and distastefully (e.g. god awful twerking). in her latest ep she tried to get into rapping as well. i'm not sure what her music persona really is at the moment-- she seems to be everywhere
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08-13-2020, 10:27 AM | #43 | ||
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08-13-2020, 10:30 AM | #44 | |
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My point is if an artist does something provocative for its own sake, a lot of people are going to call it trashy. There's really nothing more to analyse further than that. This just happens to be a case where a woman of colour does this. Bringing race and sex into this is really just making a fuss from nothing imo. |
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08-13-2020, 11:24 AM | #45 |
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its a cool song, i like how rhythmically fluent all the verses are. all the speaking parts are flying between different singers and different triplets...
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08-13-2020, 11:26 AM | #46 | |
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And I'm not saying that people are consciously doing this (tho some certainly are). It's ingrained within our society and culture, for people's default reactions and assumptions about people to differ based on gender or race. That's the thing about intersectionality. We as women do share that common experience of being shamed, POC share certain experiences, and women POC have their own unique intersection of experiences. Good example I can think of: Janet Jackson and the wardrobe malfunction. I watched that live and uh, if anyone actually remembers the performance, JUSTIN rips the bustier off janet's bust during a performance of HIS song. Where the line HE sings is "gonna have you naked by the end of this song". Yet Janet got allllllllll the blame for the "malfunction". Nobody thought "maybe Justin ripped too hard?" and blamed him. Nobody thought "maybe the seamstress made a mistake?" and blamed them. The world saw a black women with her boob out and blamed her, entirely her. When she probably had little to no say in what actually happened since it was a giant production choreographed by her and Justin's teams. Yet Janet takes the blame... hmm Last edited by mellonxcollie; 08-13-2020 at 11:26 AM.. |
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08-13-2020, 11:39 AM | #47 | |
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as FG pointed out, she was being called out for cultural appropriation at the same time. The other thing was the very rape-y lyrics and tone of the song. and then the way she was dressed in opposition to her male co-singer, who was in a full suit while she was wearing a flesh-coloured panty set That performance was using Miley's sexuality to the benefit of her male co-singer. It didn't have the same feeling of female empowerment as many of these other anthems including WAP. it just seemed generally messy and "wtf are you doing". I know that misogyny definitely went into a lot of criticism of Miley but there was some real stuff there, too |
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08-13-2020, 12:48 PM | #48 |
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imagine listening to cardi b and not three six mafia
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08-13-2020, 01:56 PM | #49 | ||
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08-13-2020, 04:13 PM | #50 |
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Because I have children, I've seen the newest argument about WAP (ahem Ben Shap- nvm). No matter what my children come across, I will tell them that this is how they choose to express themselves, period. It's not my job to enforce my own opinions on my children. They'll grow up into their own person whether I like it or not, and enforcing my beliefs onto them is where severe childhood depression and anxiety come to play. Don't even get me started on how, at 8 years old, I had free reign on the world wide web lol
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08-13-2020, 04:57 PM | #51 |
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its catchy
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08-13-2020, 05:07 PM | #52 |
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i dont understand the ben shapiro memes from WAP
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08-13-2020, 06:02 PM | #53 |
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Imagine listening to music and not investing in TSLA shares
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08-13-2020, 06:10 PM | #54 |
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it's because his wife who is a ~doctor~ said that women who have wet pussies must be ill and have a yeast infection or something
so basically ben shapiro has never satisfied his wife, literally confirmed BY HIM in an attempt at a.... brag? its the funniest fucking thing to ever happen |
08-13-2020, 06:31 PM | #55 | |
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08-13-2020, 07:15 PM | #56 | |
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08-13-2020, 07:30 PM | #57 |
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since when are music videos and music the same thing
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08-13-2020, 08:22 PM | #58 |
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i will always appreciate the alt-right's incredibly overreaching efforts to give as much exposure as possible to everything that's seen by at least 5 people and challenges their worldviews
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08-14-2020, 01:21 AM | #59 |
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This. Song. Sucks.
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