TWG 194 - Game Thread

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Why do you ask?

They played together (on opposing teams iirc) in the Mafia World Champs on MU, which is frankly my biggest cause of tinfoil.
If you read last EoD with the assumption they're partners, then certain things (two specific posts I remember) make more sense than if they aren't. The reason I always tend to dismiss this though is that it's a huge stretch to believe that two power wolves threw away their shot at a game winning mislynch to stage a thunder dome during Mylo. What would the intent be? To clear dbp when dusk flipped? Way too risky. Unless they did it specifically knowing Jessie would flip and the flip would then clear dusk. But that flip was beyond their control, so it's really hard to believe in a world like that

I ask because a wolf vs wolf thunderdome is more likely to happen when it's two players who are friendly with each other and enthusiastic about the game. Dap is the type of player to pull off those sorts of stunts (like his fake save-a-partner CFD in the one champs game), but I wasn't sure if dusk is too.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I feel like DBP would be the type of player to account for posterity and what happens next if something fails.

Bolth might just be too easy.

[Hakulyte]

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I think the towniest player is dbp followed by dusk followed by bolth

[meme]

[Hakulyte]

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I won’t be able to successfully explain it to you, especially if your mindset is “game halted until I figure out why xiz/uli/psycho all entered the thread by chance near the same time”

No offense to you but I just don’t care enough to defend against that argument, it’s so unimportant that it should never be a read, and I already know I can’t convince you otherwise so I’m not bothering.

That kinds of hurt to reread at this point while looking up for Dusk, but I guess it's partly my fault for not being more cooperative.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Do I get Xiz lynched over him saying 3 letters when 1 shot vigi contains 1 number.

I apologize for the passive aggressive garbage post here.

I think it's my worst post all game and I was concerned about getting dunked over a chaos play.

Not really game relevant tho.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I've tried to dissect yesterday's EOD, and ultimately dusk being the last wolf is the only option that makes sense.

MML and leetic started the jessie wagon, and at that point it was dap and bolth on jessie and dusk on dap. Then these happen:

jessiebessie

@MML fingers crossed bud

MML and leetic are both on this, If you're town, come consolidate the wagon.

Vote Count:
5/4 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD


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jessiebessie [3]
MixMasterLar, leetic, ShadoWolfe

Duskfall [2]
DaBackpack, Bolth mannn

DaBackpack [1]
Duskfall

Wait- no. That might work.

Jessie

Unless wolf haku miscalculated here, I think this goes to show he's town. As a wolf, he would've put his partner at 4 with his vote. Jessie self pres's to make it 4v3, and dusk obviously isn't going to put himself into a KITB, so haku's pretty much hammering jessie at this point.

The only big brain play I could imagine is if haku knows either mml, leetic, or shado are sketched out by him to the point that him voting there would make them switch over to dusk, hence why I asked how others were reading him. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, in my experience playing with haku, he seems like more of a no nonsense type of player, so I don't think he'd hammer a wolf partner when the victory was right there.

As for shado, he's the one who set the jessie wagon as the frontrunner, and I'm also reading his tone as pure. Him explaining his mindset to haku this phase, going through each step of his read on dap, both makes sense as well as sounds legit, as does his response to me about dusk. His mind seems to be more open to possibilities (entertaining the tinfoil, etc) compared to dusk, who responded to me today like everything was already set in stone and that's that on that. I think shado's approach is the townier one.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Beyond that, dusk comes out looking the worst following the EOD. He pushed super super hard to have the vote between him and dap and no one else, and he admittedly defended jessie up until the end:

there is no safe play its mylo

there is only a "oh no jessie didnt post at all its a shame we couldnt read them" play

Am i kinda soft defending jessie now btw? yes

because dbp is just clearly a better lyncha nd jessie is a counter wagon to the 1v1 with scum in it who is just obviously dbp

Tbf this is probably my fault for not playing earlier, I do think when town really needed me today though I have stepped up and done my best, I have handed you a wolf on a plate all you have to do is put the final bullet in it

Please lynch dbp here

Why are people voting outside the 1v1 vote dbp fml

Leetic vote in the cross, there is scum in me and dbp

You don't have a confident read on jessie, even if they are scum it is p much a coinflip no one can actually read this is a policy lynch

In the 1v1 you can weigh up your options better and know one of us is scum, and that if you can read one of us correctly you can hit through, by either finding me as town or finding dbp as scum

He didn't vote jessie until the last minute or two of EOD either, despite himself being the counterwagon. There was a reluctance despite having to self-pres.

He's also fairly defensive when it comes to bussing:

Bussing is just bad play always though?

Shado called him out for this one too, I remember.

it was not!

LOL people really considering me wolf with dbp

This is probably one of the craziest reads I've ever given, but based on the shitty FFR forum search, this is the only post in the game where dusk used an exclamation mark, and it was to defend against the possibility that he and dap are bussing each other. Obviously that's a defense he feels very strongly about. He even followed that up with a double post trying to make the idea seem laughable

Then, like I said before, when I show up today he tries to control the narrative and make it seem like me getting lynched is a forgone conclusion:

I don't think it is possible for you to not get lynched at this point, honestly you are going to f3 guarenteed as guiltiest player with the only other mafia player being outted.

There is not really a play you can make to not get lynched anymore, at least in me eyes. Getting subbed in at this point is a major feelsbad but I do think your slot is kind of screwed so just heads up

Dbp is outted because his claim of blocker is proven impossible in our setup

You voted yesterday in mylo on me, with the two other scum and no town on town, while the rest of the players vote mafia

Also your slot has been the most wildly scumread all game of the slots in poe even before dbp and jessie were proven mafia

Basically, I think dap and dusk, two very strong players (as evidenced by their appearance in the champs game), had a solid wolf game going (seemed like they were going to get a clean sweep at one point) and decided to swag out. They went for the thunderdome because the stakes weren't that high and it was a good opportunity to have that kind of fun. Xiz did his stuff, FFA did his fakeclaim, so there's precedence for swagging out and doing crazy shit already in this game. Why not go for it?

I remember one game where V and I were both wolves and we agreed to thunderdome each other, a very calculated tunnel from start to finish, and when he ended up getting lynched, I looked super super good and ended up coasting us to a win. It was also really fun too, lol.

So, all in all, based on last EOD and the types of players that everyone left is, dusk is the most likely wolf candidate.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I honestly think that exclamation mark is the smoking gun, lmao

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I honestly think that exclamation mark is the smoking gun, lmao

Yeah, there's a funny correlation with that.

This game we had Jessie doing it.

Turbo had T-Force doing it.

It would be funny if this becomes part of meta.

[DaBackpack]

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one post

[DaBackpack]

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two post

[DaBackpack]

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red post

[DaBackpack]

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blue post

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

hey plop they announced making a Muv-Luv Alternative anime the other day!

and "The Day After" is coming to Steam!! I read the first two parts of TDA in English and I think it has the potential to reach the same heights as MLA

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

hey plop they announced making a Muv-Luv Alternative anime the other day!

and "The Day After" is coming to Steam!! I read the first two parts of TDA in English and I think it has the potential to reach the same heights as MLA

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