TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

[TWG Flurry]

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Fauna/Cherry/Tank for maximum UTR teamwork

[TWG Agent S]

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Have you reset on Cole's slot since they took over or are you taking the previous player's posts into consideration on that read?

I have reset since they took over.

They are making a lot of small talk on conversation that's already happened and summing up the takeaway from it for most dialogue. Still need some time to brew up conversation outside of that box for me.

[TWG Phil]

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man, Dora was funnier than I realized

[TWG Apollo]

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I feel like I've got to read you as confirmed town now for this post.

I WOULD ABSOLUTELY push pressure on me, if I was in your situation. If it wasn't Maple, then I would hit Agent S. Super opportunistic. Especially if it was recently being viewed from a w/w scenario.




Unsure where you're going with on the topic of discussion regarding night actions, or why it's still a conversation point. It's pretty dull now this late in the phase.


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I don't follow your reasoning on how that practically makes flurry a confirmed town. They aren't you so you can't expect them to make the same plays that you would.

Also I was posting as I was reading what I had missed. Sure by this point the rescission on what happened in the night was stale but not for me while reading what I had missed

[TWG Apollo]

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I have reset since they took over.

They are making a lot of small talk on conversation that's already happened and summing up the takeaway from it for most dialogue. Still need some time to brew up conversation outside of that box for me.

Fair

[TWG Agent S]

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I don't follow your reasoning on how that practically makes flurry a confirmed town. They aren't you so you can't expect them to make the same plays that you would.

We unfortunately play a game where only I know that I'm town. And I don't think a wolf would skip the beat to take in that opportunity, or vocalize that they would go the other direction, contradictory to a free wolf lean read.

Of course, covering devil's advocate, this would indicate w/w pairing if either of us flips wolf, or t/t.

[TWG Flurry]

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We unfortunately play a game where only I know that I'm town. And I don't think a wolf would skip the beat to take in that opportunity, or vocalize that they would go the other direction, contradictory to a free wolf lean read.

Of course, covering devil's advocate, this would indicate w/w pairing if either of us flips wolf, or t/t.

What sucks is that I don't have the reads to seal this game. It's just a lot of PoE in my mind.
So, even if you town read me, I'm not particularly useful right now.

[TWG Apollo]

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We unfortunately play a game where only I know that I'm town. And I don't think a wolf would skip the beat to take in that opportunity, or vocalize that they would go the other direction, contradictory to a free wolf lean read.

Of course, covering devil's advocate, this would indicate w/w pairing if either of us flips wolf, or t/t.

Would you have town read me had I made the same post as flurry

[TWG Flurry]

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Would you have town read me had I made the same post as flurry

I don't mind town reading you over looking like someone that's trying to find something.

[TWG Phil]

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Apollo has so many more posts than I remember

[TWG Cole]

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I'm okay with getting rid of maple now vs leaving them to fuck things up for town later

not a good reason to lynch someone

[TWG Agent S]

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Would you have town read me had I made the same post as flurry

I'd probably be pretty conflicted based on previous reads of you but I would be inclined to town read you.

Flurry was already in my town leans when they made that post as confused town.

[TWG Flurry]

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I think Cole should lead this phase because no reason.

[TWG Flurry]

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Heres some stuff

Town

- Boomer (very vigi)
- Eugene (I’ve already stated my case on Eugene earlier. Reads, reactions and emotions are very authentic and I think the arguably dumb observations they sometimes make are the result of over enthusiasm, typing before thinking. They play with no filter and I think that’s a very towny thing to do. I don’t think we should ever touch Eugene.)
- Cherry (Cherry is asking very good questions and noticing a lot of things that people are missing. They also don’t seem to be pocketing anyone which I really like. In particular, I like that they questioned Dora about the soft clear they did for everyone who was on the Zucker wagon before Del claimed. I’m still upset Dora never responded because I’m still struggling to read people like tank and flurry. I would be pretty surprised if Cherry was scum.)

Town Lean

- Tank (I’ve spent a lot of time reading Tank’s posts and it's frustrating because I sort of understand how he is getting from A to B mentally but the reasoning he gives is next to non-existent. I’m inclined to lean him town because even though he is much more big brain than I am, I do agree with a lot of the analysis he does that I understand.)
- Phil (I initially didn’t like the whole Roleblocker fiasco back in D1 but when I look at his overall play I really don’t see how his game is ever scum. He has been consistent in his reads, his progressions seem very natural, and he actually has an understanding of the game mechanics, which is more that I can say for a lot of people. For now, I see him as a benefit to town.)
- Maple (This is my biggest gut/tone read of my list of potential townys. I feel like their frustrations of not really being acknowledged are genuine, and I feel like they are doing their appropriate digging when they have their suspicions, even when I don’t necessarily agree with them. I think their suggestion of keeping the acq alive for a day is a very towny thing to suggest.)
- Julian (I still maintain that his play, especially at d0, has been especially towny. He opened up the conversation on a lot of people and quite frankly a lot of the interaction that’s been had would not have happened if it wasn’t for his play. It was aggressive but it worked, and I think town is better for it. Could a wolf have done it? Sure, I just don’t feel like his play came from a scum position. Only note I have was his weak read on me and tank. I still don’t understand why you have tank locked as a scum and based on your description of me, I really should have been in null, not locked town. Overall, I’m still leaning town on Julian though.)
- Flurry (I don’t really see what’s so wolfy about flurry. He is engaging conversation and keeping critical, and also staying quite active. I know theres the whole julian vs flurry thing but I just don’t see a world where Flurry is a lock wolf. Saying that, there is a lot of flurrys posts I just don't know how to read, and I'm not really sure why.)

Null

- Punchy (Punchy’s play has been very towny and good questions ARE being asked but I also feel like they’re not following through very hard with their questions and I feel like it could be the type of towny play a wolf could make. There’s nothing I’ve read that leans him scum though so I’d be very hesitant to touch him any time soon.)
- Agent S (Agent S was always going to be a null for me cause nothing has stood out from him at all to me. I had to do a full ISO to write this. Everything seems super towny from what I’ve read but I don’t like how under the radar he seems to be flying)

Wolf Lean

- Rolf (This is the gut read of my scum leans. Their questions don’t seem to go anywhere, and he seems disconnected from the actions of the thread whenever he comments. He just seems to be using a lot of words to not actually say much. Under the radar is what I’m sensing)
- Apollo (I was scum reading apollo early for similar reasons as Maple, his gameplay was pretty useless in helping town in any way. After Maple called him out on this, he has shifted into being a lot more active in questioning and commenting on the game, which I really like. I’m just curious whether this shift was due to him getting more involved to avoid suspicion, or if he just waited until he had observed more of the game before digging in.)
- Chrissy (Chrissys play has been extremely wishy washy and they haven’t pushed the game in any sort of direction. I get that they entered the game late and they’ve been playing catchup, but all the clarification she seems to be asking for is mostly related to night actions rather than the chatter of the day phases. Is this a newer player trying to keep up with the game? Possibly, but I think its also possible its a wolf coming into the game late and trying to stay separated from all the more intense conversations.)
- Chief (I think Dora’s read on Chief’s vote being opportunistic is a very good one, especially as it supports my read on Chief and Zuckers interactions early in d0. I know people say not to put so much leverage on early game interactions, but looking back on the conversation, it just seems like banter between partners. His decrease in activity levels can either be based on actually just not having as much time to play, but his style and tone make me feel like he just doesn’t care anymore. This is why he is in my leans, not my lock pile, because I feel like a wolf would care and a wolf would try and defend themselves in the situation Chief is currently in.)

Wolf

- Matthilda (I have been scum reading Matthilda from the very start and I just want to know what they flip as at this point. They’re not interested in helping the game so I feel like its low risk. Their reactions to accusations have been extremely defensive and just don’t feel genuine.)
- Molly (Molly was, for me, the most suspicious vote on Zucker during first phase. She has been the most inactive player in the game based on post count and half the posts she has made have been word spam trying to defend herself. If previous games are anything to go by, this type of play is very wolfy)

I am exhausted, I'll probably respond to stuff for 5-10 minutes then I'm going to sleep. Nightmare of a day.

Quoted this so we can read it together if anyone sees something odd.

[TWG Punchy]

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Fauna/Cherry/Tank for maximum UTR teamwork

Cherry reads and interprets Tank's posts to townread their partner? Risky strat. I wouldn't pair these two. I don't even care if this post is a serious read from you, Flurry. You're either a town floating every single possibility or you're a wolf throwing out every possibility to see which one sticks.

Quoted this so we can read it together if anyone sees something odd.

Hey... You stinker! I already made a response to this list, mrmpht! Let me find it.