TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

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  • TWG Tank
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2020
    • 0

    #1261
    Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

    Originally posted by TWG Eugene
    Tank, thoughts on info that Del gave and our Boomer claim please
    spicy

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    • TWG Eugene
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2020
      • 2

      #1262
      Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

      Originally posted by TWG Tank
      spicy
      *bangs head on desk* oh my God...

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      • TWG Eugene
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2020
        • 2

        #1263
        Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

        A question for Molly if they ever come back:

        Your last post was a short reads list on a few people at 00:32. You had over 25 minutes to participate and interact with I daresay at LEAST 10 OTHER PEOPLE but instead chose to do nothing but vote Zucker. Why didn't you talk to other people?

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        • TWG Tank
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2020
          • 0

          #1264
          Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

          Originally posted by TWG Cherry
          even without the benefit of the wolf lynch/pr claim, i don't see what was so wolfy about their posts what what

          like, you could definitely make a case for them but 'one small step below a genuine slip' is exaggerated as hell
          hmmm
          i kinda buy this more

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          • TWG Eugene
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2020
            • 2

            #1265
            Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

            Originally posted by TWG Dora
            also this will probably out me but w/e i guess
            What exactly do you mean by this?

            Originally posted by TWG Phil
            what I did is exceedingly common on other sites
            this is just at the point where its annoying
            I must have missed what you did... What did you do, Phil?

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            • TWG Phil
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2020
              • 1

              #1266
              Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

              Originally posted by TWG Eugene
              This locks in Boomer and Del as PR and anyone would be stupid to deny this as fact
              god you're so cute
              people do already know this, btw

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              • TWG Phil
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2020
                • 1

                #1267
                Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                Originally posted by TWG Eugene
                I must have missed what you did... What did you do, Phil?
                the "If I am x role, I did a" thing

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                • TWG Eugene
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 2

                  #1268
                  Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                  Oh Phil I just remembered something that you said regarding Punchy not forgetting a slip.

                  Originally posted by TWG Julian
                  not letting it slide, lol. i noticed it too. very bad look!
                  Here's your man, it wasn't Punchy unless Punchy said something similar and I missed it

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                  • TWG Eugene
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 2

                    #1269
                    Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                    Originally posted by TWG Phil
                    the "If I am x role, I did a" thing
                    Ahhh. I gotcha

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                    • TWG Tank
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 0

                      #1270
                      Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                      Originally posted by TWG Maple
                      For real? I basically stated this in one of my posts last night, and they have yet to post... trying to look a little too town?

                      my net is crackd. fml

                      Originally posted by TWG Julian
                      town's job is to lynch wolves, wolf's job is to lynch townies, and acqui's job is to take people over until they're the last one left. lynchings don't really matter to them d1, and i'd say your play best reflected that. no vote, no attempt to solve anything. you just existed because you had no motivation to do anything at that point. presumably you didn't take someone over because you got blocked.
                      youre makin it sound like youve never seen someone phone it in on d0 in a game with just town and wolves

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                      • TWG Dora
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 0

                        #1271
                        Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                        So now I update the table with my new reads:

                        Apollo [1]
                        Maple

                        Dotty [1]
                        Fauna

                        Flurry [1]
                        Cherry

                        Julian [2]
                        Agent S, Del

                        Zucker [9]
                        [ Flurry, Phil, Tank, Dora ] Rolf, Molly, Julian, Boomer, Chief

                        Chief [1]
                        Punchy

                        Didnt Vote: Zucker, Melba, Dotty, Apollo, Mathilda

                        =======

                        So of the people left there are 3 categories:

                        -The people left on Dels wagon:

                        Rolf, Molly

                        -The people who had nothing to do with Dels wagon

                        Agent S, Fauna, Cherry, Maple

                        -The people left who didnt vote:

                        Apollo, Melba, Dotty, Mathilda

                        ========

                        Unfortunately, getting any info on the people who didnt vote from the wagon is pretty futile as you can probably imagine. I solidly think not voting is purely anti town behavior (sorry apollo) but its not strictly indicative of wolfiness. It just makes it harder when people like me try to put the pieces together.

                        That being said, I believe they must be judged strictly by their play since their vote says nothing. Melba and Dotty were ghosts d0. Eugene has had a very strong phase this game so I dont feel at all bad about townleaing him despite the slot. Chrissy has kind of been all over the place, im thinking by eod ill have a better feel for that slot.

                        Apollo has been pretty strange. He has shown himself to be a very outside the box player. Openly admitting to not voting, held on to doubting boomer as the vigi for the longest out of anyone, has voiced very random and occasionally wildly unpopular opinions. He might be a possible candidate for Acquisitioner but I really dont think he's a wolf.

                        Mathilda has been playing very aggressive in response to early pressure. Initial impression is it isnt towny because a lot of it is centered around deflection. Theres a very fine line between towny anger and wolves getting angry to throw people off them. Without the help of meta i cant really be confident in this read but if theres a wolf in the people who didnt vote this is where it is

                        Eugene: Town
                        Dotty: Town lean pending EoD
                        Apollo: Null
                        Mathilda: Wolf lean

                        ============

                        Finding the last wolf on Zuckers wagon is not going to be easy. Both Molly and Rolf didnt really have anything in their iso that is incriminating (though in my opinion Rolf sounded townier leading up to eod) and I dont want to go too deep into speculating without clear cause>effect.

                        Originally posted by TWG Molly
                        In regards to the Zucker wagon, my first instinct upon seeing a PR claim less than 2 minutes from EOD is to make sure the PR didn't get lynched and the best way to ensure that didn't happen was to cast a vote on what I knew was really the only other wagon at the time. If I had Zucker as a solid town read, then my reaction might have been different.

                        I'm sure that other people reacted in a similar fashion. At the same time, I'm sure wolves saw this as an easy opportunity to hop on an easy wagon. That said, the Zucker wagon is likely a good place to look in terms of finding wolves, but I don't think being on the wagon in and of itself is indicative of wolfy behavior.
                        This post doesnt really say very much. The end especially tastes like just word spam. If there is a wolf left on Zuckers wagon, I'd give the edge to Molly. This is probably my lowest confidence read yet, this just might be the mark of a level 2 wolf player that the absence of strong opinions on their play is a mark against them.

                        In short, after Chief if I had to pick another wolf on the zucker pileup Molly would be it

                        Rolf: Slight town lean
                        Molly: Wolf lean

                        =====

                        Last but not least, the people who did their own thing and stayed away from zucker and dels wagon, to reiterate that would be:

                        Agent S, Fauna, Cherry, Maple.

                        Agent S and Maple were there at EoD. (EoD being defined as T-15 mins from day end).

                        Another bold prediction, Im going to half clear Cherry and Fauna. I would call this read medium confidence. I just dont think wolves completely whiff being present at EoD. I realize its entirely possible because IRL happens which is why its a half clear. Only if Agent S and Maple were somehow cleared would I look under them at Cherry and Fauna.

                        Branching off into more traditional reads, Cherry has had limited presence and I dont really like much of what shes done today. Fauna has looked a lot better by comparison. So if you must breach this lower bracket, Cherry should be scrutinized first.

                        Agent S was present till the very end of the day, attacking his scumleans rather than getting involved with the dogpiling onto zucker. I think this looks good, doesnt clear him by any means but its the inverse to my chief wolf read pretty much.

                        Maple was last seen around 15 mins till EoD and i think represents the more likely wolf in this small subset. Their last post for the day was this

                        Originally posted by TWG Maple
                        Crazy how people don't realize when eod is. That's not good in my book. I came to double-check my vote, and I'm fine where it lies since they are one of the ones above.
                        yeah this isnt weird at all. wait a minute...

                        Out of the people who abstained from the Zucker/Del wagons maple is my highest confidence wolf lean

                        Agent S: Town
                        Maple: Wolf lean
                        Cherry: Low confidence town lean
                        Fauna: Town lean

                        ======

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                        • TWG Tank
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 0

                          #1272
                          Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                          Originally posted by TWG Chief
                          Also, I saw someone said I was null earlier - I think honestly I look a bit bad due the way that zucker lynch played out. While I feel the reasoning is really obvious, I don’t think I just walk away here. Mostly because it’d be openly hypocritical, despite the circumstances. In short, consider this a personal acknowledgment from me of that.
                          idg why you care enough to write a speech but dont care who said it about you
                          not relatable fam

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                          • TWG Fauna
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 1

                            #1273
                            Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                            You are giving incredibly strong reads, Dora, but it doesn’t excuse the night actions..

                            Are you writing all this as a wolf? Acq? Are you claiming that boomer got blocked in the night?

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                            • TWG Dora
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 0

                              #1274
                              Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                              So the FULLY updated wagon list with all my reads:

                              Apollo [1]
                              Maple

                              Dotty [1]
                              Fauna

                              Flurry [1]
                              Cherry

                              Julian [2]
                              Agent S, Del

                              Zucker [9]
                              [ Flurry, Phil, Tank, Dora ] Rolf, Molly, Julian, Boomer, Chief

                              Chief [1]
                              Punchy

                              Didnt Vote: Zucker, Melba, Dotty, Apollo, Mathilda

                              =========

                              LEGEND:

                              Green = Town lean or Town
                              Black = Null
                              Red = Wolf lean or Wolf

                              =========

                              To summarize fully:

                              I think there are 3 wolves within this group of 4 people:

                              Molly, Mathilda, Chief, Maple.

                              A tier below them are people who should be investigated should that world prove false:

                              Apollo, Chrissy, Cherry, Rolf

                              And above them are my town reads / leans:

                              Julian, Rolf, Flurry, Phil, Tank, Punchy, Eugene, Agent S, Fauna

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                              • TWG Dora
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2020
                                • 0

                                #1275
                                Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                                Originally posted by TWG Fauna
                                You are giving incredibly strong reads, Dora, but it doesn’t excuse the night actions..

                                Are you writing all this as a wolf? Acq? Are you claiming that boomer got blocked in the night?
                                I am claiming boomer got blocked or i got medic saved. Thats the only thing that makes sense from my point of view

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