TWG Turbo 29 Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

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For the moment I would say I have you,Raeko, MAYBE FFA, and very very likely poptart (I say this because knowing Poptart, he forgot he signed up for this game)

But I don't have any specific reasons why, just gut feelings atm

Shadow can you talk to me about your FFA/poptart townreads at this point? At this point FFA had 8 posts and they were pretty much all shitposts. Is the poptart read a meta one where you think a wolf poptart would have been tuned into the game?

[Bootleg LordQuas]

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what do you think of pozz read on charu that he's being "soft" in his interactions?

I don't like, disagree

But at the same time I don't really think this has been a game of a lot of interactions at all if I'm honest

It is a weird line of pressure and I'm not sure I agree with it

[Pozzai]

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Yeah but raeko is a dead flipped villager idgaf about your reads on them anymore

What are your anti alignments and current living players

Idgaf about you not gafing, if you read that post again the very first line does say "not a lot outside Raeko" following up in my next post with "apart from what I feel of people's interactions with me".

I gave you my thought processes and manners in which I inquired with the purpose of expanding them, you then have the option to keep that in mind when/if you reread the game, or to completely ignore it, suit yourself.

Yesterday was a shitshow of a day in regards to actually get read cause the day was essentially "over" after an hour in terms of the lynch having been decided.
The only thing I really remember as slightly tickling my anti-alignment/alignment radar was AA's progress on Charu, when he pops in going "I think Charu is partners with FFA, oh now he scumreads him, hmm, maybe he's the town and Pozzai is the partner"
It is slightly "theatrical" of a read to give on a partner, about a townflip coming up, but it's exceedingly weak.

[Pozzai]

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before I forget, quas/pozzai what are your mafia experience? as in the game, not the alignment

Slightly more videomafia than forum.
I think I'm probably around 80ish forum games.

[Bootleg LordQuas]

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Charu just hasn't been around much at all to interact

They kind of drop posts and go if I'm remembering more correctly, which I do think can be an indicator of a wolf but that didn't seem to be what pozzai was referring to?

[Bootleg LordQuas]

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Idgaf about you not gafing, if you read that post again the very first line does say "not a lot outside Raeko" following up in my next post with "apart from what I feel of people's interactions with me".

I gave you my thought processes and manners in which I inquired with the purpose of expanding them, you then have the option to keep that in mind when/if you reread the game, or to completely ignore it, suit yourself.

Yesterday was a shitshow of a day in regards to actually get read cause the day was essentially "over" after an hour in terms of the lynch having been decided.
The only thing I really remember as slightly tickling my anti-alignment/alignment radar was AA's progress on Charu, when he pops in going "I think Charu is partners with FFA, oh now he scumreads him, hmm, maybe he's the town and Pozzai is the partner"
It is slightly "theatrical" of a read to give on a partner, about a townflip coming up, but it's exceedingly weak.

I just don't think what you posted was all that useful honestly. Seemed like a lot of words to say what could have been said in maybe 3 sentences

[Pozzai]

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raeko (1)- Quas
Quas (2)- Xiz, raeko
Shadow_God (1)- Dusk
Duskfall (3)- Shadow_God, ffa, AA
No vote - Pozzai, Charu

Shadow_God (1)- Quas
Pozzai (1)- ffa
ffa (4)- AA, Charu, Shadow_God, raeko
Charu (1)- Pozzai

minor wagonomics analysis before I go and revisit my reads

The no votes on d1 are unfortunate but w/e, if the team is pozzai/charu then that's pretty funny and they saved themselves a day by being inactive

I had hoped looking at this would give me more but I don't think I can safely say if there were 1 or 2 scum on FFA's wagon. His play didn't make him easy to townread and set himself up for the mislynch pretty easily so a pozz/quas team isn't out of the question, but I think it's unlikely.

I think the only useful thing I take away from this is that of the 1-vote wagons, if any of them flip wolf then I probably clear the other. Between quas and pozzai I would feel better about quas mostly due to tone when he voiced reasoning for the vote

I'll repeat what I said yesterday, wagonomics yesterday means literally nothing, as FFA was always dying. There's never been a better time for a busvote than scum!Pozzai on scum!Charu because it was utterly meaningless in terms of pressure or risk.

[the sun fan]

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no votes have been cast

[Bootleg LordQuas]

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I'll repeat what I said yesterday, wagonomics yesterday means literally nothing, as FFA was always dying. There's never been a better time for a busvote than scum!Pozzai on scum!Charu because it was utterly meaningless in terms of pressure or risk.

Bump

If wagons were at all competitive I was going to end day on ffa as well. I just didn't want to hammer

[Pozzai]

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Charu just hasn't been around much at all to interact

They kind of drop posts and go if I'm remembering more correctly, which I do think can be an indicator of a wolf but that didn't seem to be what pozzai was referring to?

You can pop in and drop posts, and still be putting some kind of aggression or confrontation towards someone in the game.

It's the latter I miss, some kind of "oomph" from their posts some agency and urgency in trying to deal with players to determine their alignment, it really comes back to what I largely disliked about AA yesterday.

Towns tend to not give a fuck about how they come off to people, they want to figure out, scum tends to try to avoid outright confrontation if possible because it might come off as scummy.

Shadow largely suffers from the same problem and I keep flip-flopping a bit on them.
Shadow kind of just went "yeah my vote on Dusk looks bad, my bad" which I really liked at the time, it wasn't defensive of his action, but more just like "yeah what's one gonna do about it".

[Pozzai]

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Bump

If wagons were at all competitive I was going to end day on ffa as well. I just didn't want to hammer

Raeko who was on Charu with me also made it very clear they wanted FFA dead.

[AragakiAyase]

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I remember why I stopped playing mafia because ISOs take way too long

Shadow - His D1 was pretty lackluster but so was pretty much everyone's. I threw him into the townpile off of tone/willingness to interact me, but on reread it's a weak read on my part and largely due to most people being gone. One post does ping me a bit:

Please kill me, thanks.

This was quoting this post:

Is this something we should look into tomorrow?

which was in response to FFA saying something pinged him about quas trying to fit in. The progression to the "please kill me, thanks" doesn't really make sense to me. I think towns can get frustrated when the game is hard to solve and want to get out of the game, but wolves don't usually have that feeling, at least not genuinely. At this point in the game not a ton of people were posting but I don't think the game was "hard" enough to warrant this as town, so it reads to me like a wolf trying to mimic that town sentiment. Shadow what prompted that post on D1?

D2 there's this post:

If this wasn't answered I'm curious as to this as well.

I'm still slowly going through the posts (I'm on page 14)

Bootleg/Raeko/Arigaki are in my no lynch pile today from what I've seen from them so far. I don't ever vote on these three

and then this one after that:

Bootleg_LordQuas- Extremely active and voices his opinions on literally anything and everything. Constantly tried to get answers out of FFA but to no avail. Feels town to me tbh

Mellon- Raeko's just doin' her thing here. I don't see anything off or unusual from her usual town playstyle. Town

FFA- extremely dismissive of questions being asked on him, and posts nothing of any relevance (i.e Codenames (somewhere on page 14 or 15)) and generally tries to dodge anything directed at him by shifting us elsewhere. Mucho Wolfo

Pozz- I've interacted with you a couple times since I've woken up, and I don't see anything unusual from you. I'd need another day to get a feel for you. Null/Town

Aragaki- I've literally only seen you play town in past games, so I don't know what your wolf play is. Whenever you're around the questions come flying around, which I like. Town lean

Charu is noticeably absent here and he's definitely contributed enough at this point to at least throw him in null? It feels like a very odd omission especially given the small size of this game.

When Mellon/pozzai are talking about Charu's play as T/W he does comment, but it's only to say that it's hard for him to read him.

The thing about Charu that I've seen is he likes to play the game differently every single time, so it's hard for me to properly gauge him. It could be just me who feels that way or sees it that way

*impatiently checks watch*

He DID say 20 minutes, yeah?

This post feels a bit overdone to me, but that's purely a tone read. there were a couple others that stood out similarly

Oh goodie, he's back. Why are you wishing to lynch Pozz today?

...You made us wait nearly ONE hour for THIS?! Are you serious right now? Do you have ANYTHING else?

I don't have a ton to go off of shadow. He still reads ok to me initially, and my vibe is that he doesn't have 100+ games of mafia like some of us do. The biggest sticking point to me is how he essentially refuses to touch charu d2 and then some tone issues towards EOD2. Gonna try to do pozz -> quas -> charu for no particular reason

[Pozzai]

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Oh right, now I remember what the thing I had stuck in the back of my head was.

Assume a scum team of AA and Shadow:

Do they decide to go day1 with AA just being like "I'm sheeping Shadow" on a misslynch right out the gate? It's fairly powerwolfy.

[Pozzai]

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Oh right, now I remember what the thing I had stuck in the back of my head was.

Assume a scum team of AA and Shadow:

Do they decide to go day1 with AA just being like "I'm sheeping Shadow" on a misslynch right out the gate? It's fairly powerwolfy.

I also feel like there's very little reason for both scum!AA and scum!Shadow to end up on the same Dusk wagon, when the counter wagon is town!Quas

[Pozzai]

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I think I'm actually fairly okay'ish eliminating a scum team of AA and Shadow now... Hmmm.