TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

I'm OK. I think this is going to be the first day of the game that I actually enjoy. How about you?

Glad to hear it. Yesterday seemed rough with how hard on yourself you were being. Any idea what brought that all on?

I'm good, thanks for asking. Just glad my spark wasn't leading me in the wrong direction

[Charu]

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...Y'know, if thesunfan is wolf, this lead up actually makes absolute sense.

Something just clicked in my head after I read star's post. I don't know if he actually read Poptart as a hider if he is wolfing, but I do know that thesunfan is one of those folks who likes to put meta plays into the forefront when he's wolfing.

I already mentioned in my last reads that thesunfan is reminding me of a moment back at Mafia Universe during a hydra. I think he was hydraing on AA, but it's been such a long time that I don't really recall what the beef was ever about. I just know it had to do something with a meta read or something.

But star just brought up a very good series of posts that showcase something that thesunfan NEVER EVER does as a wolf. He will NEVER BUS. No matter the circumstances.

...It's odd, he's using meta and now I'm using a meta read, but I promise you that he has stated this as a fact in the many times he's played this game. He simply doesn't bus, it's not in his playstyle and he will tell you this 100% of the time.

The fact he wasn't going all in on his own meta read against me about me randomly killing someone for the sake of randomness makes me think he hit a dead end with that call out.

Oh my god...

[star-crossed]

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...Y'know, if thesunfan is wolf, this lead up actually makes absolute sense.

Something just clicked in my head after I read star's post. I don't know if he actually read Poptart as a hider if he is wolfing, but I do know that thesunfan is one of those folks who likes to put meta plays into the forefront when he's wolfing.

I already mentioned in my last reads that thesunfan is reminding me of a moment back at Mafia Universe during a hydra. I think he was hydraing on AA, but it's been such a long time that I don't really recall what the beef was ever about. I just know it had to do something with a meta read or something.

But star just brought up a very good series of posts that showcase something that thesunfan NEVER EVER does as a wolf. He will NEVER BUS. No matter the circumstances.

...It's odd, he's using meta and now I'm using a meta read, but I promise you that he has stated this as a fact in the many times he's played this game. He simply doesn't bus, it's not in his playstyle and he will tell you this 100% of the time.

The fact he wasn't going all in on his own meta read against me about me randomly killing someone for the sake of randomness makes me think he hit a dead end with that call out.

Oh my god...

You just reminded me of something else I was thinking about last night. I see the fact that sun fan is clearly most familiar with Subaru's meta from the way he gave reads on Subaru, as possibly connected to him being able to most easily figure out he could be the hider.

[ShadoWolfe]

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Part of me wants yell out in joy that you guys are finally seeing what I've been saying, but a larger part is not liking the sudden unity on sunfan in a phase I think its crucial to reassess in.

[star-crossed]

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Part of me wants yell out in joy that you guys are finally seeing what I've been saying, but a larger part is not liking the sudden unity on sunfan in a phase I think its crucial to reassess in.

Oh I'm reassessing everything, this is just my starting place.

[Charu]

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Part of me wants yell out in joy that you guys are finally seeing what I've been saying, but a larger part is not liking the sudden unity on sunfan in a phase I think its crucial to reassess in.

I mean, I think for me, it's either me or him at the moment. What other lynch candidates are you willing to explore at this juncture?

Xel voted for Funny, and well... Xel probably could bus, but he didn't look all that broken up about voting his own wolf. Granted he hasn't really given DEEP thoughts on the game as a whole, but the posting style he's given thus far has been pretty loose if he were to be wolfing.

I mean, a theory could be had where Xel's and Funny's game plan was just the usual "let town implode" thing because that's been working awfully a lot recently.

[star-crossed]

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p sure its charu

not sure I can even lynch star for that eod
xel /probably/ isn't going to vote for his partner like that
kinda don't think that fg puts her partner in her scumreads like she put shado in and it really, really doesn't feel like town was just winning THAT hard yesterday

Votes for wolves deserve scrutiny. I can think of more games off the top of my head (the jTWG where I was cop and should have claimed, the orb game with Charu/Gradiant/DBP, the game where raeko/roundbox/Ben were wolves) where wolves did that rather than risk being on the wrong side of history.

Glad to hear it. Yesterday seemed rough with how hard on yourself you were being. Any idea what brought that all on?

I'm good, thanks for asking. Just glad my spark wasn't leading me in the wrong direction

I did not see until after the day ended that the lightning storm bit was a joke. Which was funny, and also good because it means there was no dangerous weather.

TWG is hard. I could go on and on about why. I think the more I play, the more examples I have of myself being wrong - defending wolves and failing to reevaluate, misplaying as a blue, hanging blues while they are afk, etc. And in response to that, I have become my own worst enemy: I make myself miserable with worrying about how not to be wrong.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I mean, I think for me, it's either me or him at the moment. What other lynch candidates are you willing to explore at this juncture?



Xel voted for Funny, and well... Xel probably could bus, but he didn't look all that broken up about voting his own wolf. Granted he hasn't really given DEEP thoughts on the game as a whole, but the posting style he's given thus far has been pretty loose if he were to be wolfing.



I mean, a theory could be had where Xel's and Funny's game plan was just the usual "let town implode" thing because that's been working awfully a lot recently.

None really, I just wanted a zoomed out version of your thoughts after the night kill 'cause I already had enough mental reasons on sunfan that reading you discover them wasn't helping me read you much

On that note, thanks for the Xel take

[star-crossed]

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PS, I wish I could be partners with you still as a wolf.

Lol, is this a wolf claim?

But the actual point of this post is cataloguing Charu's mentions of Funnygurl.

Oh, I guess Funny's town or somethin'.

There, another read.

Three down, something else to go

1) Funnygurl555

Posting consirably more. Alignment probably town because of this, but also because of the happy vibes I'm getting from them. Funny is playing for fun friends.

It really is, tone-wise.

She's much more uh... not post heavy (or happy-like) when she posts as a wolf.

Tell you what, if Funny stops making happy-sounding posts, then I'll switch to her to honor the death of T-Force.

Deal?

1) Funnygurl555

Probably still town

2) SubaruPoptart

Has a preference to dragons

3) inDheart

Is taking in the info very calmly

4) ShadoWolfe

Loves me

5) XelNya

His first phase is screaming likely town

6) T-Force

Has a cute cat

7) star-crossed

Is also taking in info calmly and trying to make sense

8) thesunfan

Doesn't actually love me and it makes me sad </3

9) Charu

Hello

If I take the folks out that I think are actually viable voting candidates I am left with...

Funnygurl555
ShadoWolfe
thesunfan

Funny because, as slap happy as she is, she hasn't done anything significant to show what she's thinking besides her take on shadow (and currently thesunfan). YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, I'M WARY OF YOU

Shadow because, well I just don't trust him. You know when you're walking around campus or your work place and you see a student/customer that just gives you bad vibes? That's what I'm getting from Shadow, even though he's being friendly. I think it has to do with his non-chalant callouts to those that have called him out already.

thesunfan because he's using this kill as a means to frame me for... dumb crud? No clue, he seems to have gotten a "AHA, GOTCHA" mindset. I don't recall ever making random kills before in the last, err............... idk games ago, but I certainly actually think about kills and don't just point at a random and hope the best. I only do that when there's no thinking involved though, dohoho.

Why we votin' her? Is it because of lack of posts?

That's probably the correct thing to do, but I dunno fam.

Well I mean... Funny did post slank

still awol

lol, I really don't want to vote Funny here.

Watch her actually be a wolf, I'mm-a be so pissed if she is.

Well not pissed, but more like... "damn, she juked me by posting completely different than usual"

Funnygurl555

Slank cover, hasn't provided much, could be a wolf, but I really don't think she's a wolf based on first phase's emotion.

inDheart

Analytical, moving things around while asking questions for himself. I honestly see nothing wrong with inDheart at a glance so if there is to be a deep wolf, look at his posts hard and see if you can make a case I suppose. Otherwise, keep around and assume they're town because they've only done towny questions this game. None of his posts scream like he's setting up a lynch or anything, he's actively changing his reads.

ShadoWolfe

I really don't know. I'm having trouble parsing his posts and there's really no excuse for me other than I don't know how to read him. He seems to think I'm a town, so that has to mean something, right? The general consesus seems to be that I'm a shady bird, not him though. That's all I really got unfortunately.

XelNya

Hasn't done anything noteworthy this phase. I'm assuming his wolf read is on me or something due to a very recent post. I'd probably vote for them probably the next phase if they don't provide tasty thoughts. I still stand by their bravado first phase makes me think they're town, but that's once again an emotion read at best.

star-crossed

Pretty much the same thing as inDheart with the added flavor that they were the first to really throw a punch during the first phase. I don't think it's a wolf starting something unless she really wanted to spice her wolf game up or something. My towniest read by far.

thesunfan

There's a nagging feeling that maybe he's a wolf because of his... uh... dumb reasoning for me being a wolf? It actually, now that I think about it, reminds me of a game back at Mafia Universe during a hydra in which he attacked my meta or something. I can appreciate him not tryharding, but hey... just throwing that world out there I guess. No idea who'd he be paired with though.

[star-crossed]

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Has anyone actually seen Xel be a wolf or have any insight into how he might approach it (that hasn't been mentioned already)?

[ShadoWolfe]

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TWG is hard. I could go on and on about why. I think the more I play, the more examples I have of myself being wrong - defending wolves and failing to reevaluate, misplaying as a blue, hanging blues while they are afk, etc. And in response to that, I have become my own worst enemy: I make myself miserable with worrying about how not to be wrong.

Don't be too hard on yourself. If there was even a single player who didn't make mistakes as town, wolves would never win.
Yesterday was unlike anything I've seen from you before, even in games I consider much harder to read than this one. That's why I had to ask for your take on your own mental space. Now this should probably a post game thing, but for what it's worth, I think the consensus is that you've by and large lived up to your name as a shining star leading town. That's definitely my thought as well. So don't beat yourself up over a couple mistakes here and there, it'll only cloud you up more

[ShadoWolfe]

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Has anyone actually seen Xel be a wolf or have any insight into how he might approach it (that hasn't been mentioned already)?

Yeah. In my reads list yesterday I mentioned volume and clarity because as a wolf I've seen him shit post fine up until push comes to shove and facade cracks big time. He's like the opposite of cracking here. You see people using the word "pure" in their town reads of him this game because as a wolf he def isn't.
I wanted to test that this morning cause he was quieter last phase than he was in the first, and his response to me affirmed my townread.

[Charu]

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Man, if the wolf isn't thesunfan, then I don't see how we can win guys.

I'm assuming, if thesunfan is not a wolf, then star will die, and it'll be a F3 between me, Shadow, and Xel. There's no actual way for me to defend against this unless I dig really deep into... one of the two that have ample amounts of stuff I can probably turn about and actually try hard.

Likewise, I'm assuming if some of you are thinking I'm a wolf, but then find out I'm not after the flip, you'll be stuck with thesunfan who now doesn't look too good either with star STILL probably dying with the same two folks at F3.

I don't know, friends.

[star-crossed]

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(I thought there was a post he had about being on FG's side of the rivalry but I can't find it, so maybe somebody else said it?)

I mean, his read is better than pretty much everything else in this thread, but it's a bad read.

I mean we got something like this:

1) Funnygurl555
2) SubaruPoptart
3) inDheart
4) ShadoWolfe
5) XelNya
6) T-Force
7) star-crossed
8) thesunfan
9) Charu

going on, so there's that

hey fg I know you're doing it for the meme and all but like

if you take trevor off our dear table, who replaces him?

final answer?

don't you lie to me

you're gonna miss the best part where we cfd onto like fg or something

she's not being weird

I think she's crowd surfing

oh also in the interest of not truly cfding my vote

fg

FORMAL STARTS NOW SHADOW STATE YOUR CASE

to put it bluntly

the meme is strong sure but it's an excellent way to ride the phase as well

and that's sorta what makes her a better lynch than you

you didn't ride the wave, she did

for the most part, there are some decent questions in there, and if I am wrong I'll actually feel kinda bad about it because I was playing around this read for a while

as in her being green in my list was a lie

me memeing on t-force was part of the setup (sorry it's not 7 year revenge, yet.)

I was trying maybe a bit hard to see if she's try to openly pocket me

and I am not sure if it worked as I'm pretty biased here we can investigate it tomorrow for sure though if I'm wrong

Ok i like this post but i'm gonna add to it to my own detrimit

My last post of yesterday has the statment that i lied about a part of my list (fg being green)

Does thst change anything about your response to sunfan

uhg fine

funnygurl

even though the charu lynch is arguably better rn

[ShadoWolfe]

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Lol, is this a wolf claim?



But the actual point of this post is cataloguing Charu's mentions of Funnygurl.

He defended her almost as much as sunfan did D0, but it never had quite the same w/w connotation to me as sunfans did because of Charu's known bus-Happy meta