TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[TWG Jade Harley]

Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

Votecount:

manti > charu
charu > manti
haku > blind
haku > unvote
aa > indheart

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Charu (1): Manti
Manti (1): Charu
InDheart (1): AA

Unvote (1): Haku

Not voting (7):

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sorry phone posting the vc. feels like I'm missing one, lmk.

[TWG Ike]

Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

Votecount:

manti > charu
charu > manti
haku > blind
haku > unvote
aa > indheart

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Charu (1): Manti
Manti (1): Charu
InDheart (1): AA

Unvote (1): Haku

Not voting (9):

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sorry phone posting the vc. feels like I'm missing one, lmk.

mine onto InD

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

would it be accurate to say xel leaving thread toward the end contributed to that?

I think that's key for my own alignment at least considering how I got so much hate over going back to voting Xel.

I know Blind said that he could have been back to work, but Xel didn't mention that anywhere around that point in time.

XelNya leaving thread for an extended period of time close to EoD really felt like he didn't care anymore in the moment where he should have cared the most.

It wasn't logical for me to see him miss the very end of the EoD when you're a potential main wagon.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

His behavior at the end of the phase outweighted my tone read on him and I started to buy the DBP read on him as well.

[LightManticorex2]

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manti, for when you can, please respond to these posts

to sum up what I don't like about you (both for your benefit and others):

I don't like how you claim that you wanted haku as an alternative to what you thought was t v t in blind v xel, but you push haku very little in the critical hours when xel and blind is heating up (namely last few hours before EOD).

I felt Haku was off his typical human game (as I have noted several times, and as Haku has agreed with stating he was changing his playstyle) I made these post 3-4 hours before EOD and while wagons were starting. I was caught up at the time, and was okay seeing xel/blind develop since I didn't really have much of a read on either. I left the thread and decided to play Heros of the storm with some friends.

Came back 2-3 hours later to see xel/blind in a wagon/counterwagon scenario and I went "wow this is happening again?" Usually these guys don't drive each other to lynch this early. I also noticed that we were wagoning exactly the two perceived most easily mislynched players in the game and got spooked off both wagons. Nothing xel or blind had done said wolf to me, but they can be difficult to read due to their inability to translate their ideas to words without getting frustrated and angry.

I was okay seeing either or die, because someone needs to die D1, and both backpack and charu were confidently on the xel train. Backpack has had success in the past reading xel, i.e. Last game, so his confidence in the read made me not want to overturn the xel wagon.

I was okay stating I thought the wagon was possibly T/T and stating I think Haku was the better lynch and leaving it there to see what ended up happening.

I also don't like how your immediate response to charu/dbp pushing you is that they're wolves trying to mislynch you. first off, I think that's a very simplistic response and not one that I'd expect of a player with your reputation. now you say that you perceive yourself to be glowing town here:

charu has been twisting my words most of the game and it's been really annoying to deal with. My post above where I tell charu that he's been grating my nerves all game is 100% honest. He's been subverting my posts and my reads, and his useage of my meta post despite originally dismissing it as a lie reads to me as "I'm useing your own words against you even if I don't believe them"

Backpack hasn't done too much looking back on it, but maybe charu's given me a complex. BP opened the day up saying he wanted to lynch me roundbox and someone else, didn't explain why I was on the list and then later said he wouldn't be comfortable with me leading the day phase his logic follows, but at the time I was thinking "you just lead a lynch on a town that you supposedly read extremely well, why are you trying to call the shots about who leads today's lynch". I got angry at backpack for not explaining what he didn't like about me, and then saying he didn't want me leading. These two items together would mitigate my ability to be an influence in the lynch later today, and he gave me nothing to work with in order for me to figure out why he didn't like me.

I probably owe BP an apology for attacking him, so here it is.

if you were glowing town, then maybe this reaction would be more reasonable. but it's apparent that no one perceives you as glowing town, and you even note that it's quite plausible here:

now the question is:

if you think it's reasonable that other people are having difficulty reading you, why is your first assumption to label dbp/charu as wolves trying to mislynch you, rather than potentially townies who are suspicious of you? and if you thought you were glowing town (I believe I asked this earlier), what do you think you've done this game that makes you glowing town/should be obvious to others?

[color=green][b] to be fair, at the time I posted that it was only really BP and charu who had been pursuing the line of thought. Everyone else seemed to feel meh either way on me. You had "gun to head wolf but would need to reread"

I think I'm pretty obviously human due to my content and involvement. Which I think everyone who's played a previous game with me realizes is miles above anything since like (2010?).

I recognize newer players wouldn't be likely to know this, but I think charu and BP would. I also think they'd normally label it just unusual not wolfy.

Responses in green. Bbl

[LightManticorex2]

Re: TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

I messed up a tag.

FAil.

[inDheart]

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yo is this the amrock 100% universal scumtell

fwiw i thought it was the reverse

"anyway, now that i've caught up to post 2100, see you later" etc

[LightManticorex2]

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XelNya leaving thread for an extended period of time close to EoD really felt like he didn't care anymore in the moment where he should have cared the most.

It wasn't logical for me to see him miss the very end of the EoD when you're a potential main wagon.

XELNYA. WORKS. MOST. PHASE. ENDS.

[inDheart]

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XELNYA. WORKS. MOST. PHASE. ENDS.

yeah this

[Hakulyte]

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XELNYA. WORKS. MOST. PHASE. ENDS.

He works on saturday too?

[AragakiAyase]

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to be fair, at the time I posted that it was only really BP and charu who had been pursuing the line of thought. Everyone else seemed to feel meh either way on me. You had "gun to head wolf but would need to reread"

I think I'm pretty obviously human due to my content and involvement. Which I think everyone who's played a previous game with me realizes is miles above anything since like (2010?).

I recognize newer players wouldn't be likely to know this, but I think charu and BP would. I also think they'd normally label it just unusual not wolfy.

so given this post of your self-meta

I wouldn't mind seeing people try to give a shot at explaining me. Fiction was the closest player to ever come to understanding how I play.

Personally, I don't think I have a defined meta. I want to win as both alignments and will try to make plays as either team to win the game. Some people try to read me on activity, but my activity will spike or drop in a game depending on time/interest/and team need.

I am exceedingly lethargic when I feel like my team is doing good and very active and at the forefront when I feel like my team is doing bad.

why do you think you providing content and involvement makes you obviously human? because you said yourself you don't think you have a defined meta

[Hakulyte]

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I wish people wrote up their work schedule at the beginning of the game or when they know they won't be here.

[inDheart]

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I have a strange feeling that you don't care about my alignment.

Oh yup here we go

I was trying to help Yeti understand what she was dealing with and give her a fair warning that reading you isn't like reading your typical player.

As for me caring, your "strange feeling" is wrong. Her post was the first thing I saw and the first thing I responded to, but from her description, I could already tell what kind of post you'd made, and answered to clarify.

I'm actually a little bit surprised it's taken you this long to start tinfoiling. I got a bit concerned when you said you were going to bed after seeing shitposts, but I guess it was nothing cause you got right back into it.

feels early to be w/w, but probably contributes to raeko's open wolfing thoughts

[inDheart]

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He works on saturday too?

his work days are like wednesday-sunday or something like that but i know he has to work some weekend days because i remember that being weird

[Charu]

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charu has been twisting my words most of the game and it's been really annoying to deal with. My post above where I tell charu that he's been grating my nerves all game is 100% honest. He's been subverting my posts and my reads, and his useage of my meta post despite originally dismissing it as a lie reads to me as "I'm useing your own words against you even if I don't believe them"

Yeaaaaah, um, if you recall a player being actually "mad" at me last time I played. It was with Wayward Vagabond who was, surprise surprise, a wolf after I repeatedly kept calling out his D0 play over and over and over. (Spoiler: It ended to be the correct line of questioning afterall)

You're not Wayward, but I sure as hell am not gonna let up what I believe in just because I made you upset. Sick of dealing with AoE, I ain't gonna fall for it from you who I know can take it on the chin.