Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

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  • Wayward Vagabond
    Confirmed Heartbreaker
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2012
    • 5866

    #16
    Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

    >: (

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    • Celirra
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2015
      • 749

      #17
      Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

      Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
      >: (
      SORRY
      ,,
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       ゛ヌ ノノノノハヾ
       ノ li.゚ ヮ゚ノi
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      • Celirra
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2015
        • 749

        #18
        Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

        Originally posted by roundbox
        I'm more confident on forums than I am in LTWG
        #IwantWVsDog
        I'm definitely more confident and comfy in live than forum

        But that's more a credit to me being unsure and nervous in forum than me being an alpha badass in live
        ,,
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         ゛ヌ ノノノノハヾ
         ノ li.゚ ヮ゚ノi
        彡と} 猫.{つ

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        • Wayward Vagabond
          Confirmed Heartbreaker
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2012
          • 5866

          #19
          Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

          I'm going to show my dog when playing ltwg if roundbox is also playing
          Last edited by Wayward Vagabond; 07-18-2017, 05:09 PM.

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          • the sun fan
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2017
            • 656

            #20
            Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

            gg
            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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            • XelNya
              [Kaho]
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 3369

              #21
              Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

              I'm gonna be honest and say I think this setup is actually balanced against the wolf team.

              Column C is pretty much inherent wolf slaughter. There's no way wolves ever win that setup.

              I think even the setup we had was a loss for wolves unless the tracker get's N0'd because if wolves miss the backup and the tracker on d2 it's

              Track claim
              backup claim
              + 2 tracker targets

              wolves just instantly die

              tldr I think the setup is inherently not fair to scum team unless they make strong hits one of the two kills.

              Which good pr play would prevent.

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              • the sun fan
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2017
                • 656

                #22
                Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                the setup rewards good wolf fakeclaims
                its what the wolfteam needs to try to do if they don't hit a role on n0
                its pretty bad when you can claim a role and just get fucked by 2 contradictory counterclaims, but you are supposed to be able to figure out which stuff you can claim and which you can because of your rolereads from the previous night

                you should be able to safely rule out a few people as being always vt by the end of d0, and that's what you really need to look for as a wolf in this setup
                TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                • XelNya
                  [Kaho]
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3369

                  #23
                  Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  the setup rewards good wolf fakeclaims
                  its what the wolfteam needs to try to do if they don't hit a role on n0
                  its pretty bad when you can claim a role and just get fucked by 2 contradictory counterclaims, but you are supposed to be able to figure out which stuff you can claim and which you can because of your rolereads from the previous night

                  you should be able to safely rule out a few people as being always vt by the end of d0, and that's what you really need to look for as a wolf in this setup
                  fake claiming is statistically bad and shouldn't be the driving point of a game

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                  • the sun fan
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 656

                    #24
                    Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    fake claiming is statistically bad and shouldn't be the driving point of a game
                    in most games yes
                    in turbos, I think its fine

                    you've gotta remember this setup is designed to teach people how to play the game as well, so it tries to cover everything from 101 to 201
                    TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                    FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                    • inDheart
                      Picker @ JAX2
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 505

                      #25
                      Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                      so, not that mafiascum is the paragon of play elegance and excellence, but their stats indicate that town loses 3 and C in matrix6 more often than they win

                      interesting that that's the case

                      (this one isn't statted because it's only been played like once, not even close to sample size)

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                      • sanzath
                        retired from rhythm games
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 322

                        #26
                        Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        I'm gonna be honest and say I think this setup is actually balanced against the wolf team.

                        Column C is pretty much inherent wolf slaughter. There's no way wolves ever win that setup.

                        I think even the setup we had was a loss for wolves unless the tracker get's N0'd because if wolves miss the backup and the tracker on d2 it's

                        Track claim
                        backup claim
                        + 2 tracker targets

                        wolves just instantly die

                        tldr I think the setup is inherently not fair to scum team unless they make strong hits one of the two kills.

                        Which good pr play would prevent.

                        I told you man

                        I told you CK was blue

                        why did we have to go and kill Haku?
                        Last edited by sanzath; 07-18-2017, 05:25 PM.
                        Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                        your name should be wolf
                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        I wish I could vote you a 2nd time.

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                        • XelNya
                          [Kaho]
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3369

                          #27
                          Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                          Originally posted by sanzath
                          I told you man

                          I told you CK was blue

                          why did we have to go and kill Haku?
                          memes

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                          • FreezinIce
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2005
                            • 263

                            #28
                            Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            memes
                            TWGchaos
                            ========

                            To let the world be.

                            ========

                            Originally posted by Charu
                            Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                            Originally posted by mellon_collie
                            AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                            Originally posted by roundbox
                            AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                            Originally posted by Afrobean
                            Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                            Originally posted by Red
                            My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                            Originally posted by TWG Ike
                            SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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                            • the sun fan
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 656

                              #29
                              Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                              Originally posted by sanzath
                              I told you man

                              I told you CK was blue

                              why did we have to go and kill Haku?
                              how'd you know?
                              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                              • FreezinIce
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 263

                                #30
                                Re: Turbo XVI: The Day After Tomorrow - Postgame

                                Appreciate sunfans insight.

                                Definitely something I'll keep in mind going forward with this and similar setups
                                ========

                                To let the world be.

                                ========

                                Originally posted by Charu
                                Wow, all most of my town reads vanished. Thanks Freez for stirring the pot, motherfucker!!!


                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
                                Originally posted by roundbox
                                AHHHHHHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET


                                Originally posted by Afrobean
                                Lynch all liars is good meta. Period.
                                Originally posted by Red
                                My guess at this point is that there aren't actually any wolves, and all the humans are just going to kill each other until only a few are left. Then the remaining survivors will realize they are the real monsters.
                                Originally posted by TWG Ike
                                SCUM THEATER AA SCUM CHARU WOLF ALIEN ROUNDBOX IS TOWN AND FRAMED

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