jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

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  • Hakulyte
    the Haku
    • Jul 2005
    • 4697

    #1051
    Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

    If you answer everything for Op, I'm going to receive 0 game content by Op and what he may have said may have been different than you as well.

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    • sanzath
      retired from rhythm games
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2005
      • 322

      #1052
      Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

      Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I figured out.

      Anyway I've noted down what I think his answers will be and see with that
      Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
      your name should be wolf
      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I wish I could vote you a 2nd time.

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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #1053
        Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

        Originally posted by sanzath
        (Oh, so this is what Haku means by playing safe, woops)
        I'll quickly make a list of what I think is more likely from each of my points.
        -Op unvoting quickly: not wolfy
        -Haku revoting slowly: a little wolfy
        -Andy revoting last: wolfy
        -Op wanting to insta Sven: tbd*
        -Haku accusing me: not wolfy
        -Rapta subbing out: not wolfy nor unwolfy, just something that throws me off
        -Op going after Haku aggressively: potentially wolfy, but I'm thinking not

        *regarding you wanting to insta Sven:
        Unrelated, but we actually tried to use this for bigger games and it ended up being a mess because how you evaluate something as wolf vs the reality and what the player was thinking at that point in time can vary.

        You're more likely to find a wolf by "follow the vote" logic or with mechanical plays. At least, unless a would massively slip and fail to recover.

        Another way is to try to sit down and make a case where you try to explain yourself the progression of a player and give reasons as to why you think something was happening for X reason.

        The problem is that with case, meta is kind of mandatory. I played with new players that were simply thinking very differently of me and I ended up misreading their intentions.

        So, in your case with xXOpkillerXx, I have to decide if you're pulling off a badass wolf game or if xXOpkillerXx is trying to stay low profile and get away with minimal intervention.

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        • Hakulyte
          the Haku
          • Jul 2005
          • 4697

          #1054
          Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

          I really wish I could edit my posts for typos.

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          • Hakulyte
            the Haku
            • Jul 2005
            • 4697

            #1055
            Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

            Well, I could also try to go with who is the most towny between you two and try to ally with that person, I'm just not that confident with how to evaluate that properly at this stage.

            Derp.

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            • Hakulyte
              the Haku
              • Jul 2005
              • 4697

              #1056
              Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

              Originally posted by tiloco217
              OK this really hurts my eyes with all the bumps so I'm going to stop for a little while. I'm on post 200 ish and the biggest thing I've seen is that hh super scummy. Like he's claiming pr but not claiming and going on me (rapta) as a gambit? I haven't found actual reasoning for why he wanted to kill me. If it isn't hh I would guess that it's opk. He voted third on xel after haku (who I have as light town) and xiz with no reasoning. He then came out with a reads list so clearly he knows how to gather and share his thoughts. Feels like a mafia hopping on a wagon.
              Originally posted by tiloco217
              Also sanzath should never be lynched because he is the only player still alive that didn't vote on xel and there is no way that vote was all town
              I know it's too late now, but this is kind of hard to emulate as wolf.

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              • sanzath
                retired from rhythm games
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2005
                • 322

                #1057
                Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                Unrelated, but we actually tried to use this for bigger games and it ended up being a mess because how you evaluate something as wolf vs the reality and what the player was thinking at that point in time can vary.

                You're more likely to find a wolf by "follow the vote" logic or with mechanical plays. At least, unless a would massively slip and fail to recover.

                Another way is to try to sit down and make a case where you try to explain yourself the progression of a player and give reasons as to why you think something was happening for X reason.

                The problem is that with case, meta is kind of mandatory. I played with new players that were simply thinking very differently of me and I ended up misreading their intentions.

                So, in your case with xXOpkillerXx, I have to decide if you're pulling off a badass wolf game or if xXOpkillerXx is trying to stay low profile and get away with minimal intervention.
                I want to think that my strat kind of works in this scenario because I can think of how you'd act irl as wolf vs irl as town, but then I realize that you post way more than I'd expect and that (in your case at least) you've got way more experience than I can really account for.

                otherwise ty for tips on how to read once I start getting to know peoples' metas
                Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                your name should be wolf
                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                I wish I could vote you a 2nd time.

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                • sanzath
                  retired from rhythm games
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 322

                  #1058
                  Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  I know it's too late now, but this is kind of hard to emulate as wolf.
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                  Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                  your name should be wolf
                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  I wish I could vote you a 2nd time.

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                  • sanzath
                    retired from rhythm games
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 322

                    #1059
                    Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                    atm I'm at a point where I'm too tired to do any more analysis or contribute anything of substance until Op arrives, so in the meantime,







                    ?????
                    Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                    your name should be wolf
                    Originally posted by Hakulyte
                    I wish I could vote you a 2nd time.

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                    • Hakulyte
                      the Haku
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4697

                      #1060
                      Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                      Originally posted by sanzath
                      I want to think that my strat kind of works in this scenario because I can think of how you'd act irl as wolf vs irl as town, but then I realize that you post way more than I'd expect and that (in your case at least) you've got way more experience than I can really account for.

                      otherwise ty for tips on how to read once I start getting to know peoples' metas
                      Experience doesn't mean much with certain players tbh, it's more about understanding core concepts of that game and taking advantage of them properly.

                      Probably just going to sleep because I want all 3 of us to be online at same time for this.

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                      • xXOpkillerXx
                        Forever OP
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4207

                        #1061
                        Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                        Well hi.

                        Sanz was set on Rapta kill and that failed, therefore I'm voting Sanz cuz at least if that fails I wont have ruined it all by myself.

                        Sanz/H&H you didnt wanna vote Haku when I said he was my #1 pick, well that's what you get.

                        Haku good job the self-vote was on point if you're wolf.

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                        • xXOpkillerXx
                          Forever OP
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4207

                          #1062
                          Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                          Sanzath

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                          • xXOpkillerXx
                            Forever OP
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4207

                            #1063
                            Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                            From my POV right now it's either Haku who I thought was with Andy buy risked being insta'd by H&H which is his winning move if wolf VS Sanz who took his time to try and read everybody in the dark and bussed andy, maybe thinking it wouldnt reach insta. Also again you spent probably 10x more time trying to find slips from ppl but you voted Tiloco who was accusing Haku. So now you're either a shit town (no offence, applies to me if you're wolf) or a great wolf.

                            Good luck everyone I expected I'd be lynched already.
                            Haku no matter your role, insta sanz and you win. I know I rely once more on saying I'm town but if you're wolf, I fucked up ggwp, if you're town, we win.

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                            • xXOpkillerXx
                              Forever OP
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4207

                              #1064
                              Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                              Btw Haku if you're wolf you'll have to vote Sanz before I unvote him. This is the only tiny chance I have at sniping you if you're wolf.

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                              • Hateandhatred
                                "The Quebec Steparatist."
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1974

                                #1065
                                Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

                                This is such haiku
                                Much intricate way to tell
                                the wolf, fuk u pls
                                Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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