jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

[the sun fan]

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

tiloco217 has been lynched.

tiloco217 was Vanilla Town.

Night 3 will last 24 hours ending at 10 PM Server (Central) Time, Friday, June 9th.

Night 3 begins now.

[thesunfan]

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

Hateandhatred ded. He was tracker. Day begin last 48 hours. At friends place will not be paying attention at first.

[sanzath]

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

rip sven, I'm sure we're all very surprised this happened

anyway

I'm fairly confident at this point that Haku is wolf.

Haku, I reread thread and I noticed this thing you've been doing, whenever you mentioned Watcher, your post heavily implied that you thought Watcher's action is what Tracker's action actually is, as if we had the same role 2 times under 2 different names. You said at least once that since Watcher watched you, you were probably in the clear. (I mean yeah you retracted that when you talked about how the assigned kill kind of makes this moot

You already stated that you say & do things that are wrong/bad (your self-reads of "if I was wolf I would do ____" come to mind) to see what other peoples' reactions would be. But imo, every player has a responsibility to understand the rules, including what the PRs do, be they VT, PR themselves or wolves. So given that:

1) I really really doubt you actually misinterpreted the rules;
2) As a VT, your posts could just as well have baited Towns or Wolves alike, so it makes little sense to do it in the first place;
3) As a Wolf, a successful bait would give you (or Andy if he was alive) some ammunition to get "wolfy" reads on somebody.

And then, imo, you heavily playing the "hey guys look at all these stupid things I'm doing that wolves would never do" was probably your only way to clear your own name, because you knew the VTs would be too scared to try to insta you.

Altogether, your plays this game fit what I feel like an experienced wolf would do, moreso than the plays Op has made fit what I think a new wolf would do.

Wasn't intending on this post being so long but sunfan just took his time didn't he

[Hakulyte]

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

hmm, I was going to make a case about Op, but I guess if you're here mentally, the game is already loss for town.

hmm

Well, that sucks.

[Hakulyte]

Re: jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

So, you're either the last wolf or the game is already loss.

This is what I'm getting.

[sanzath]

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oh, I was actually anticipating you being up in arms against me as per d1 and d2

I mean, if you want to post about Op, feel free, I'm not actually voting until all 3 of us are here

[Hakulyte]

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Haku is trending more town than before, but I wouldn't put deep wolfing past him. More stuff later.

Unrelated, but nice meme.

[sanzath]

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Unrelated, but nice meme.

lol, andy's read list

[Hakulyte]

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Op you have a lot of wagon instances that makes little sense as town.

The XelNya vote.
The back and forth with H&H/Andy
That tiloco insta.

Mechanically speaking, you're pretty wolfy to me. If Sanzath died last phase, I was nearly always voting you.

You had no reason to push that insta here. Tiloco would have died anyway even without voting most likely.

[sanzath]

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You know what actually? I had figured that since he knew he would flip wolf sooner or later, whatever he posted would be largely ignored and he probably went 50/50 on his reads.

But if he was careless enough to let something slip in his WV read, I'm now wondering what else could be hiding there.

[sanzath]

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^post in reference to Andy's read list

[sanzath]

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Woops, haku I mistook your quote as coming from this post. Anyway for reference

Sanzath - Town
He's genuinely interested in learning what other players are using to base their opinions. His massive statistics post and understanding of how the wolves could manipulate knowledge of PRs shows investment in solving the game that town players need to win but also initial concern with the mass claim strategy.

Hateandhatred - Wolf
He has been soft claiming a power role since the start of D1 and playing an anti-town game overall. He slammed happily an instalynch on XelNya using personal bias to justify it. You should never instalynch that early unless you have a confirmed wolf.
Now to his strategy, which I'm still not sure I fully understand. He is trying to soft claim PR and convince the non-Quebecs that he won't use his role on them, but he's using that to try and condition the wolves to target Quebecs when he will in fact use his power on Quebecs? It is seriously convoluted.
Top it off with his counterclaim to my hard claim of Tracker because he wasn't around to fake claim with the rest of the townsfolk. It all reads very scummy to me and I want to see him lynched.

xXOpKillerXx - Null trending wolf
I'm having a hard time convincing myself he's fully wolf, but it's things like this that make me think he is a wolf. He's trying really hard to compute the situations to make it seem like he's town trying to solve, but of course as a wolf you wouldn't include yourself as anything but VT. He's been pushing for a lynch on Rapta which I don't think is good right now, but also bussing H&H if they're partners. Seems risky for a first timer and with a game this small.

Rapta - Town
It's posts like these:
158
162
257
that I think look really good for Rapta being town. Genuinely interested in solving the game and not making the same mistakes we made D0. His iso looks pretty clean other than being on the XelNya...wagon I guess you could call it...D0.

Wayward Vagabond - Town
He hard claimed Watcher and no one countered, so I'm inclined to believe he's town. He does not get lynched.

Hakulyte - Town
I wasn't so sure about Haku at the start, but I think he's taking charge appropriately to help solve this game with us. Lots of questions to uncover reasoning and interacting with everyone. The only blemish is I think his wolf meta is effort posting to seem town, but I'd like to continue having a strong town lead to help us figure this game out. He's only a consideration tomorrow.

[Hakulyte]

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Haku claimed he had four votes with mine. Vote count a few posts before shows that was a lie. Either Haku lost count or he's trying to defend his wolf partner. Either way, mechanics will have me voting HnH since that's the lynch pool.

Ok, I found a hard clear for myself.

[Hakulyte]

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That read list makes me wolf read you Sanzath lol.

[Hakulyte]

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Same applies to Op actually.

Not really useful for me. rip.