TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Framing is the correct word.
It's been happening from the start.
No lifelines.. Hm. I don't like that one bit from you.
So who are my partners?
Question for AA too. Who are my partners?

Look, if you're town and "scumhunting", then you must have some idea of "other wolves"
I know you're 100% sure of me, but you're wrong.
I challenge the both of you (and everyome else here) to think beyond your tunnel of me for a moment
Lynching me puts you at 7/3 lylo (7/2 if vigi hits scum) or 8/3 mylo (if vigi doesn't shoot)

Lynch a different "wolf" today. It's not like I'm going anywhere, right?
If we hit red, I'm down for vigi to shoot me at night. That way at least my lynch won't dramatically inpact the game.

no because I don't have a wolf who's as obvious to me as you are

right now, I'd put you at a 99% chance of being a wolf
I'd put roundbox at about 85% chance
after that, ??? maybe jade? maybe witch? somewhere in those two I think

and if you're the roleblocker, then letting you live another night is awful, so no, we're lynching you today

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I'm at the point where if shado is town then I think town just loses because I have no idea who the wolves are then, it could really be almost anyone

[AragakiAyase]

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I think if shado is the roleblocker then that heavily implicates roundbox because it reads to me like he's trying to divert and bus for some towncred

Aight, let's get some pressure on roundbox
Still on AA in spirit, but I'm increasingly wary of Roundbox's absence

[ShadoWolfe]

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I'm at the point where if shado is town then I think town just loses because I have no idea who the wolves are then, it could really be almost anyone

This is what I don't like about your "thunderdome". I've never seen you this fixated on anyone, even before I went donezo last night.

Like, I made some really good points at the start of this phase. Your response was to be 100% sure that me scumreading you meant I was scum
???

And then later it turned out you hadn't even read all those posts
???

"shado is town then town just loses" just means you're so focused on me you're willing to let town lose because you won't consider alternatives.

Why so inflexible? Why so fixated? Find someone else this phase.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I can't tell if Xel/Jade are being genuine or trying to hop on an easy mislynch.
AA, why don't you start exploring other worlds by analyzing that?
Don't be so fixated. Find someone else. C'monn

[AragakiAyase]

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This is what I don't like about your "thunderdome". I've never seen you this fixated on anyone, even before I went donezo last night.

Like, I made some really good points at the start of this phase. Your response was to be 100% sure that me scumreading you meant I was scum
???

And then later it turned out you hadn't even read all those posts
???

"shado is town then town just loses" just means you're so focused on me you're willing to let town lose because you won't consider alternatives.

Why so inflexible? Why so fixated? Find someone else this phase.

nope

your points were ok, but as sunfan pointed out, why only push me and not the people who started the wagon initially, roundbox/sunfan? if you thought dbp was that strongly town surely there'd be some suspicion there as well? did you ever get to go verify that I pushed witch hard yesterday? because I haven't seen that either

you haven't seen me this fixated because you haven't played enough with me, let me point you to two examples of this:

lynched red blaster d2, tunneled him to china: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=143227

pushed blind incredibly hard, I died in the night but he got lynched:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=144442

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

here's why I'll never not lynch you today: because I already gave you a day pass and that was a mistake

[AragakiAyase]

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I can't tell if Xel/Jade are being genuine or trying to hop on an easy mislynch.
AA, why don't you start exploring other worlds by analyzing that?
Don't be so fixated. Find someone else. C'monn

I can't tell either

why don't you analyze it?

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

here's why I'll never not lynch you today: because I already gave you a day pass and that was a mistake

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I can't tell either

why don't you analyze it?

.. You know what, sure.
But you do it too (you can wait until I post mine to post yours or w/e)
But yeah
Find someone else. Follow other leads.

[AragakiAyase]

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I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

you definitely could have been lynched yesterday

me and charu both gave you day passes

haku was suspicious of you

If I had campaigned harder I'm sure I could have gotten you lynched because your interactions and progression with mellon were abysmal

I have ideas for other wolves but I'm not moving from you because you are far and away the most likely hit

I'm not discussing this any more

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

I wasn't getting lynched yesterday. You didn't give me shit, and I didn't ask for that.
Today, on the other hand, I'm telling you to find someone else if you're town.

I'm confused why you're so unwilling. The simplest explanation is that you've already smelled blood and don't want to build another mislynch from scratch.
But go do that. Seriously, you have incentive to do so as town or wolf.
If town, you don't want to lynch me because a vigi shot on you puts town in lylo tomorrow
If wolf, you don't want to lynch me because mislynching me guarantees your demise when the vigi shoots you after seeing that all the shit youve spouted was incredibly wrong, and that you wouldn't have it any other way.

And yes, I'm formally asking the vigi to shoot AA if he decides to be so mentally inflexible as to not want to bother finding a different target.
I mean, he said "if shado is town then town just loses because I have no idea who the wolves are then, it really could be just anyone" He hasn't even entertained other possibilities. He's solely fixated on one mislynch.
So if he lynches me, shoot him.
I could be wrong, but it'll be as a result of him not considering any alternatives.

I mean, I'm willing to get shot if we hit red today, I don't see why you don't take that. It ensures town's survival despite my death. At least that way I don't harm the game too much

[ShadoWolfe]

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For everyone who has me as their top scum, what are your second and third strongest scumreads at this point?

Where did Witch go?

[Witch of Certainty]

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This is silly.
I'm going to pull out the "self-resolving" card; leave Shado for the wolves to decide, if he's not one, let them have to choose whether to kill him or not. Find someone else to call scum, I'm sure there's at least one in the list I gave. Let's consolidate.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

no because that entire argument falls apart if he's the roleblocker