TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • AragakiAyase
    Waifus
    • Apr 2015
    • 961

    #2461
    Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
    Not really here, just updating.
    Just seeing sunfan in a better light after these last few posts. Please don't peace out before phase end.
    I don't like Raeko at all. The bulk of her posts are responding to the UTR bullshit, a couple of reactions with hours and hours of silence in between. I thought she got a little better last night, but her "activity" today has been abysmal.
    I'll likely vote from Raeko and Jade, pending DBP posts
    I wonder why the bold is

    oh, maybe because you and MML pushed her for hours on end on it?

    the couple of reactions is not even out of her town range, I've said it and I'll say it again that I think you were maintaining a stupid expectation for raeko and were going to throw her in the scum pile if she didn't fit the box you laid out for her

    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
    I said she was getting better at one point last night, but I definitely retract that after her lackluster day today.
    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
    Have you read anything at all? I've repeatedly given this.
    You. Haven't. Contributed. Shit.
    Just disappear, defend, reactionmeme, disappear, defend, reactionmeme, repeat
    Not caught up, but I don't think that's changed in the last hour.
    I just don't think the last post is true, let me iso mellon now

    pikakirby123 reincarnated





    Comment

    • AragakiAyase
      Waifus
      • Apr 2015
      • 961

      #2462
      Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

      raeko content

      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      People that seem towny to me so far:

      I like Haku. He seems genuine. The vote on himself is just ? but seems like something town Haku would do. It seems kinda ballsy for a wolf to do for no reason

      Lar has bad reads imo but I think that makes him look more towny in my eyes?

      Proph's read list seemed good to me and the content he's had while he's been around looks good. Mostly a tone thing for this read

      AA seems pretty good at least for today. He's been asking a lot of questions from multiple different players and he seems like the town AA I'd expect

      I liked thesunfan's reads list as well, but I found the style he posted them in to be a bit odd, since I haven't seen him write many "essays" like that recently. However I liked the content of his posts
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      Right now I'm leaning toward Shado, and not just because he is pushing me. It's because he is making a push way too early, way too aggressively and with much too flimsy reasoning. Yes I responded in an emotional manner but he just kept pushing, and pushing, rather than listening to me it seems. I think town players genuinely want to read people's responses and it didn't really seem like Shadow has been doing that, not only with me either.

      I'm not sure how I feel about Xel. I suck at reading Xel but I haven't had any distinctly townie vibes from him. He seems like he is interacting a bit, but not a lot, and most of the things he's said haven't displayed much "original" thought

      Jade is beginning to bum me out by not showing up, but I can't hold that against her quite yet. I think it's possible there are "UTR/inactive" wolves but I also think we need to give them a bit more time to accurately judge their activity levels

      And oh Lar I'm playing this game, I didn't mean I'm going to stop playing. I meant I'm not going to interact with you because you aren't a nice person and this is supposed to be a fun game
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      This is a really hard question for me to answer, I was actually thinking about this earlier. Honestly I don't really know. I seem to always be playing with AA when he is town, so it's easy for me to think "He's just like the last game we played!" which is obviously going to be one where he rolled town.

      I guess right now it comes down to I haven't seen anything that is wolfy but I have connected the tone and style to how he plays when he is town. I also think he's an experienced enough player to fake his play style while he is a wolf though, so it's hard.
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      I agree! so let's talk about them

      Shadow being wolfy (upgraded from SHADY to WOLFY imo) which has had many good points from multiple players already stated

      AA is defending me, but not just for the sake of defending me, he's doing it to call out Shadow's poor reasoning. I like that because he's not taking an easy vote on a human. And he seems to be calling Shadow out every chance he gets, so I don't see that as a very likely W/W combo

      Lar IDFK he seems to have some sort of problem with me so I'm not sure if that is alignment indicative.
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      I brought up that your entrance was weird too. I think it might have to do with your roleplay character and the short, choppy sentences? That sort of style could be easily faked as a wolf. It could also be the fact that you just showed up and made a few short posts and then left, but I think that makes sense given the timing
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      why are you ignoring answering why you think Backpack is town? Quoting posts is not an explanation. We've all already read those posts in the thread and it does not add any original thoughts or content to the game by quoting them as a response
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      Alright. I guess it's just not a very satisfactory explanation. It seems that you keep referencing posts you've already made, rather than expanding your thoughts when asked about them. This is suspicious to me
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      because it comes across as doing the bare minimum. The more times a wolf has to repeat their stance about a specific thing in the game, the more chances for them to slip up. It's easier for them to reference their old post than fake an entirely new post and stay consistent
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      OK

      what are your thoughts on me calling you out right now?

      Are there any people in your "null" pile that you could try to form a more solid read?

      Things like that. You don't need to wait to be asked, you can come up with these sorts of "questions" to yourself and answer them in a post.
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      I'm really tired I didn't sleep well.

      I'm drawing a huge blank on roundbox. I know he was busy so I'm not finding his absence suspicious, but we haven't really crossed paths in the thread so it's hard for me to get a read on him. I don't like these ????s in my mind

      Lar is trending from null to town to me. His posts from last night seem well thought out and give reasoning on every player in his reads list. Also his questions to people seemed like they came from a natural read of the thread

      I think I realized what was bugging me about Witch's explanation of her town read on Backpack. Her main piece of evidence was one interaction which occurred a few hours after the game started. Although she did post a few quotes he made after that, she didn't say why she liked them, so it didn't seem like she was putting as much thought into the new information. Mainly basing a read off an hours-old interaction just seems weird to me.

      The fact that she seemed hesitant to expand on her thoughts about this increase my suspicion here
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      I feel like Haku was being a bit defensive toward Shado based on one small comment

      I don't have a clear choice for who I want to lynch today

      Witch still seems very suspicious to me because of her lack of willingness to be open about her thoughts. It seems like she only wants to share ideas when they are concretely formed, but that's not going to happen very often. It seems like an overly cautious mindset

      Proph is kind of reminding me of when I do play UTR as a wolf (not trying to open that can of worms again just noting this). Dunno if this is enough to vote off of though
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      DBP is a sketchy sketch I don't like his thread presence at all he feels like he's just skating by, none of his posts seem substantial

      Witch is also sketchy for similar reasons. It feels like she does not want to post much substantial information which seems more likely to be a wolf trait

      Sunfan is weird too, I can't quite place why, I wouldn't lynch him today tho
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      Why do you keep making such long/serious posts sticking up for Witch, sunfan?
      Originally posted by mellonxcollie
      DBP is a sketchy sketch I don't like his thread presence at all he feels like he's just skating by, none of his posts seem substantial

      Witch is also sketchy for similar reasons. It feels like she does not want to post much substantial information which seems more likely to be a wolf trait

      Sunfan is weird too, I can't quite place why, I wouldn't lynch him today tho
      mellon consistently gives reads (both town and scum), updates, pushes witch, pushes sunfan for defending witch

      sure doesn't fit the pattern outlined with "Just disappear, defend, reactionmeme, disappear, defend, reactionmeme, repeat"

      not even close lmfao

      pikakirby123 reincarnated





      Comment

      • AragakiAyase
        Waifus
        • Apr 2015
        • 961

        #2463
        Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

        you want to talk about cherrypicking? you handwaving her content and saying the disappear defend cycle is cherrypicking and misrepresenting at its finest

        pikakirby123 reincarnated





        Comment

        • roundbox
          fhqwhgads
          • Feb 2005
          • 2085

          #2464
          Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

          Pretty sure AA is town, these recent posts re: shado are good
          Originally posted by the sun fan
          I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



          Comment

          • ShadoWolfe
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2009
            • 171

            #2465
            Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

            Originally posted by AragakiAyase
            requesting people only lynch me or shado today, because I'm going to thunderdome shado here and win because he's a wolf and I'm town
            Lol. This is kind of funny.
            At 10/13 players remaining, a few hours into D1, I can't see town AA being so closedmindedly fixated on me (with his accusation really occurring after my vote on him) that he would insist on a lynch between us. If he were town, he'd know me being town wrecks the game and ends it if he's wrong. It'd go to 7/10 tomorrow, and then F5/F4 with 3/2 wolves after town AA gets lynched tomorrow (5/4 and 3/2 are dependant on vigi shooting (if alive) and whether or not he hits scum.) either way, that'd be game over.
            Like, you're my top scum and I'd still have to reevaluate if you were closer to getting lynched, the fuck are you on about a thunderdome?





            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
            Originally posted by XelNya
            " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
            Originally posted by YoshL
            "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

            Comment

            • AragakiAyase
              Waifus
              • Apr 2015
              • 961

              #2466
              Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

              Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
              Lol. This is kind of funny.
              At 10/13 players remaining, a few hours into D1, I can't see town AA being so closedmindedly fixated on me (with his accusation really occurring after my vote on him) that he would insist on a lynch between us. If he were town, he'd know me being town wrecks the game and ends it if he's wrong. It'd go to 7/10 tomorrow, and then F5/F4 with 3/2 wolves after town AA gets lynched tomorrow (5/4 and 3/2 are dependant on vigi shooting (if alive) and whether or not he hits scum.) either way, that'd be game over.
              Like, you're my top scum and I'd still have to reevaluate if you were closer to getting lynched, the fuck are you on about a thunderdome?
              because you're a wolf

              pikakirby123 reincarnated





              Comment

              • ShadoWolfe
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2009
                • 171

                #2467
                Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                raeko content





























                mellon consistently gives reads (both town and scum), updates, pushes witch, pushes sunfan for defending witch

                sure doesn't fit the pattern outlined with "Just disappear, defend, reactionmeme, disappear, defend, reactionmeme, repeat"

                not even close lmfao
                Yes, and? We know she's town for sure now, so those posts will obviously look a lot better in retrospect. I didn't keep my vote on her cause I thought she was getting better, but I was obviously not very happy with her game when I posted the rinse repeat thing.





                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                Originally posted by XelNya
                " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                Originally posted by YoshL
                "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

                Comment

                • ShadoWolfe
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 171

                  #2468
                  Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                  because you're a wolf
                  Lol whatever, man. Go drink some water or something FFS.





                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                  Originally posted by XelNya
                  " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                  Originally posted by YoshL
                  "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                  Originally posted by mellon_collie
                  "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

                  Comment

                  • AragakiAyase
                    Waifus
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 961

                    #2469
                    Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                    oh, let's see how many of those posts I quoted by mellon shado actually responded to, hmm?

                    mellon's post:

                    815: can't find anything, although DBP did respond to it in 874
                    913: nope
                    924: nope, but that's ok I guess because it's an elaboration of the read on me.
                    949: 952 wall of haha
                    1158: nope
                    1329: nope, in 1333 he instead chooses to talk to roundbox saying "Do not fear, I am here!"
                    1553: oh there's actaully a response in 1558, but it just says keep going

                    shado never actually presses mellon on any of her content, he kind of just watches her produce it and then sits back on his scumread. kind of like the vig turbo where he did that to dfr. no interaction with your scumread = nagl
                    and before he says he did interact with mellon, I can't find a single place where that didn't have to do with her not posting enough or something. when she actually posted content YOU DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT

                    pikakirby123 reincarnated





                    Comment

                    • AragakiAyase
                      Waifus
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 961

                      #2470
                      Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                      Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                      Yes, and? We know she's town for sure now, so those posts will obviously look a lot better in retrospect. I didn't keep my vote on her cause I thought she was getting better, but I was obviously not very happy with her game when I posted the rinse repeat thing.
                      and did you just ignore my point? you handwaved all of that and didn't even push her on any of that, for thinking someone hasn't produced content it sure looks like they did and it sure looks like you didn't care about whether they actually did produce content, being content instead to say she was being lackluster

                      pikakirby123 reincarnated





                      Comment

                      • AragakiAyase
                        Waifus
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 961

                        #2471
                        Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                        Lol. This is kind of funny.
                        At 10/13 players remaining, a few hours into D1, I can't see town AA being so closedmindedly fixated on me (with his accusation really occurring after my vote on him) that he would insist on a lynch between us. If he were town, he'd know me being town wrecks the game and ends it if he's wrong. It'd go to 7/10 tomorrow, and then F5/F4 with 3/2 wolves after town AA gets lynched tomorrow (5/4 and 3/2 are dependant on vigi shooting (if alive) and whether or not he hits scum.) either way, that'd be game over.
                        Like, you're my top scum and I'd still have to reevaluate if you were closer to getting lynched, the fuck are you on about a thunderdome?
                        seems like he's scumreading me here

                        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                        Lol whatever, man. Go drink some water or something FFS.
                        talks to me like he's town and I'm town here

                        k:

                        pikakirby123 reincarnated





                        Comment

                        • ShadoWolfe
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 171

                          #2472
                          Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                          Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                          oh, let's see how many of those posts I quoted by mellon shado actually responded to, hmm?

                          mellon's post:

                          815: can't find anything, although DBP did respond to it in 874
                          913: nope
                          924: nope, but that's ok I guess because it's an elaboration of the read on me.
                          949: 952 wall of haha
                          1158: nope
                          1329: nope, in 1333 he instead chooses to talk to roundbox saying "Do not fear, I am here!"
                          1553: oh there's actaully a response in 1558, but it just says keep going

                          shado never actually presses mellon on any of her content, he kind of just watches her produce it and then sits back on his scumread. kind of like the vig turbo where he did that to dfr. no interaction with your scumread = nagl
                          and before he says he did interact with mellon, I can't find a single place where that didn't have to do with her not posting enough or something. when she actually posted content YOU DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT
                          What. Fucking. Scumread. Are. You. Referring to??
                          I explicitly said I wanted to give her time so I could evaluate her content. I was watching her and trying not to be biased. Considering how she responded to our last interaction, the last thing I'd ever do there is push on her. The one thing I did push her on (as scum, not saying post more), even she said she saw where I was coming from. Why would I comment on her posts and sidetrack her again when she was just starting to post more??





                          Originally posted by Hakulyte
                          I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                          Originally posted by XelNya
                          " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

                          Comment

                          • ShadoWolfe
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 171

                            #2473
                            Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                            seems like he's scumreading me here



                            talks to me like he's town and I'm town here

                            k:
                            Go drink some water means "fuck off with that shit", if you didn't know.





                            Originally posted by Hakulyte
                            I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                            Originally posted by mellon_collie
                            "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

                            Comment

                            • thesunfan
                              Role Tide
                              Sectional Moderator
                              • May 2011
                              • 10859

                              #2474
                              Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                              Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                              I get that town tinfoils

                              but it feels like shado is keeping his options open here, rather than genuine tinfoil
                              You took the words out of my mouth
                              Shado *is* keeping his options open, but he's doing it in a pretty poor way

                              gonna talk more about it in my next post
                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                              Originally posted by star-crossed
                              (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

                              Comment

                              • thesunfan
                                Role Tide
                                Sectional Moderator
                                • May 2011
                                • 10859

                                #2475
                                Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

                                Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                                As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

                                The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

                                I don't buy it at all.
                                ok, lets say that he is taking Witch out of KitB (I mean he is so we agree here)

                                Why does he do this?

                                The way you frame it, you're calling it scummy for voting someone other than Witch, rather than for voting for DBP. I think it is very clear that AA/Witch is never a team in any universe, so this line makes absolutely no sense.

                                AA did NOT say that neither me or roundbox are wolves, but that he didn't think that we BOTH were.

                                He slipped in a really stupid tinfoil on me at the end of yesterday by talking about an emoticon I used

                                A FUCKING EMOTICON

                                If people think that a scumread on a player for using an emoticon is a justified read, I have no idea what to say to you. That shit is Haku tier.

                                He called Xel frozen when he was working at couldn't post.

                                He thinks Haku could be a wolf this game.
                                HE THINKS HAKU COULD BE A WOLF THIS GAME.

                                He's casting people in worse light than they really are, and there's no way this isn't scummy.

                                It reminds me of when I reread my wolf games and see the defenses that I gave to some of my actions/my teammates. Sometimes, the spin that you have to put on certain things is just terrible, but you do it anyway because its your playstyle and you believe in it.

                                That's what it feels like to me; he's trying to keep his mislynch options open (its possible the read on maybe Xel is on a partner, but you get my point)
                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                                Originally posted by XelNya
                                I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                                Originally posted by star-crossed
                                (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

                                Comment

                                Working...