TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Shado's pushes this game are pretty bleh if you look at them:

He sat on Mellon for most of d1, tunneling her because she wasn't posting enough to satisfy him. He then ended up on proph, but I don't remember anything that shado even said about proph, it seemed like he just voted proph because charu did. Now he's pushing me but he's only looking at my EOD vote pretty much. He's spent most of this game focused on one person, switching only when it seems like he has an outlet. He pushed Xel very briefly but quickly got off him. I think shado as town pushes a lot more people than he has this game

Now let me iso him to make sure I'm not grossly misrepresenting him

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Hm. I'd actually like this a lot if you hadn't just said you sheeped roundbox because you were confident he was town during EoD.
Did your expectation of roundbox change overnight, or is it something else that's caused your read to change so drastically?

also if you'd actually take my posts into account, you'd see that roundbox is moving because I actually had time to go over his EOD posts

[AragakiAyase]

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roundbox

your posts so far have been pretty meh this game, the only towny thing I have from you is your early reaction to me townleaning you. your tower post was really, really, bleh. it almost felt like you were just skating by with it, and I didn't like your EOD

please be town if you're town

[AragakiAyase]

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ok so here's what shado has done this game:

push very briefly on me early on
mentions a post by haku that "unnerves" him
attacks sunfan's read list
sit on mellon foreeeeeeeever, 1612 he says the majority of her posts are reactions to UTR stuff. well no shit, because that's what you pushed her on, you never actually talked about the reads she did make
pushed xel briefly for contradiction then backed off
throws out that he strongly believes there's a wolf in me/sunfan, but makes no push on that at all
he says in 1556 that he thinks witch is mostly being scumread due to style. then in 1915 he says witch is looking townier. now witch is his top candidate, but it's based on me flipping wolf which won't happen. I guess this progression isn't horrible, but lolforums making my vote look like shit when it should've come right after the VC

so he's touched briefly on a few players, but no one really outside of mellon. really? and he said at some point he was fine with sunfan being lynched, but made basically no effort to interact with him or push him aside from the reads list thing

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

sunfan talk to me I'm in a class I don't want to be in and this game is dumb

[thesunfan]

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I said the same thing last game, but only because I thoroughly believe it.
Maybe you don't understand, Egregious Miscalculations shows exactly how well Haku can post as a wolf.
You can all keep saying "oh, lone wolf is basically SK though" and, while I agree that it's a lot harder to read lone wolves because of a lack of partner association, tone doesn't change as much. With the knowledge that he was wolf, Haku made a lot of seemingly genuine posts that got him townread until endgame. That doesn't change whether he knows his partners or not, because he still has to come up with bullshit reasons as to why he "thinks someone's a wolf", and genuinely defend himself against accusations that he's a wolf.

I think 9/10 wolves would like this post

[AragakiAyase]

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greg how many wolves do you think are in

roundbox/shado

[AragakiAyase]

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I think 9/10 wolves would like this post

I get that town tinfoils

but it feels like shado is keeping his options open here, rather than genuine tinfoil

[roundbox]

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roundbox

your posts so far have been pretty meh this game, the only towny thing I have from you is your early reaction to me townleaning you. your tower post was really, really, bleh. it almost felt like you were just skating by with it, and I didn't like your EOD

please be town if you're town

Can do

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

Can do

Later though

[ShadoWolfe]

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Hm. I'd actually like this a lot if you hadn't just said you sheeped roundbox because you were confident he was town during EoD.
Did your expectation of roundbox change overnight, or is it something else that's caused your read to change so drastically?

quote where I said I was confident he was town, because I never said that this game ever

I had him as null with a very slight town lean going into EOD, the town lean because of his early game more than anything else. I said I didn't think both sunfan/roundbox were wolves, so I trusted the combination of their votes, not one of them individually

Oh, I see. So, in the following post of yours "I thought both you and roundbox weren't wolves" does not mean that you thought sunfan was not wolf and roundbox was not wolf?
Instead, you meant it as "the combination" of sunfan and roundbox was not wolfy together, but that either could be a wolf individually? Like, not W/W but could be W/T?
If this is true, why do/did you believe that sunfan/roundbox couldn't be W/W?

Dude fuck off, don't say I wasn't trying to get people lynched, I started wagons on you and proph

Fuck you that's just wrong

Jade was a gut vote, if you're looking for deep explanations you won't get them
And I got off because like I said, I thought both you and roundbox weren't wolves and could see that dbps posting was only OK and not great

Bye now I'm mad

[Prophylaxis]

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Catching up.

Note that I'm quite busy today (need to finish up a CS project I've been procrastinating on, plus one of my friends invited me to a freaking ESCAPE ROOM tonight) so I'll try to find time for this game but don't expect /too/ much.

[thesunfan]

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As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

I don't buy it at all.

On phone between classes, this post is garbo.
shado

[ShadoWolfe]

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As I've said, his vote was opportunistically timed to take Witch (you) out of KitB, despite previous assertions that he wanted to give DBP a day, and despite maintaining a townread for majority of the day, and despite defending DBP in EoD all the way until sheeping sunfan at the very last minute.

The very same sunfan that he had just also given a day, despite noting his wariness. The very same sunfan who he's now saying he sheeped because he didn't think either sunfan or roundbox were wolves. How did wariness go to such faithful trust in a matter of minutes?

I don't buy it at all.

it's not just sheeping, if you'd read what I'd been saying, and I didn't trust sunfan that much, I just wanted to avoid a kitb and could see a world where dbp was a wolf

stop misrepresenting my posts if you don't want me to vote you

I'm not misrepresentimg shit, don't try to twist this.
I'm pointing out your progression and explaining why I think it's scummy. If you don't like that, explain to me why I'm wrong.
Trust me, I've been reading what you're saying. I just don't buy that the vote was to avoid KitB just because it's KitB.
You weren't sheeping?? Really?

I think we shouldn't lynch DBP today because he easily resolves tomorrow if he's a wolf

I refuse

And then at the literal last minute:

yeah idk

if dbp flips town I"m going to be salty

This last one basically openly says you're sheeping, hence the saltiness.

[thesunfan]

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.. One last thing:
I'm seriously considering the possibility that I was majorly wrong about Xel yesterday. Xel gets more self conscious as a wolf; I can see him freezing at EoD and not voting, and then freezing again on an entrance now as a result of not voting at EoD (despite posting in the time leading up to it).

Xel, post please.

Dude said he couldnt post cuz work