TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

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waffle house for real got my shoes on and shit and walking out the door. Posted way more then I intended lol but whatever

Peace out bro, enjoy waffle house.

[Hakulyte]

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I may end up not sleeping and actually writing a wall.

I feel like no one will kill/lynch me this entire game.

[Witch of Certainty]

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See, I think she's wolf as an extension of AA (or possibly sunfan), and because she's contributed little in the way of any real scumleans.

So in other words, you think I'm a wolf as an extension of AA...not voting me when he had the chance, when that would fit his given stances and help soldify his position?
Or are you saying AA is a wolf who for some reason decided to pull a fairly obvious save of a partner at the last second?
And I'm really getting sick of the "no scumleans" case. Multiple people have explained why that's dumb. Please, just stop.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I may end up not sleeping and actually writing a wall.

I feel like no one will kill/lynch me this entire game.

...
On this note, I'm going to bed.
G'night Haku. Try to sleep.
Looking forward to AA's responses in the morning. I'd like everyone to pay close attention to them. Don't gloss them over or give them a pass: these responses should be very alignment indicative regardless of what approach he takes tomorrow or what he tries to project.
G'night.

[Hakulyte]

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G'night Shado. \o
Don't worry, I'll try to not end the phase before you're back.
(even if I really want to)

[ShadoWolfe]

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So in other words, you think I'm a wolf as an extension of AA...not voting me when he had the chance, when that would fit his given stances and help soldify his position?
Or are you saying AA is a wolf who for some reason decided to pull a fairly obvious save of a partner at the last second?
And I'm really getting sick of the "no scumleans" case. Multiple people have explained why that's dumb. Please, just stop.

This is my last post:
AA doesn't bus unless he absolutely has to. Same goes for sunfan (even more strict about no-bussing). Same goes for me.
I think, if you're wolf, AA never kills you instead of taking a possible townlynch. You say "fairly obvious save of a partner", but I think AA is also confident enough to save his partner and believe that he has the ability to talk himself out of resulting suspicion.

Also, the "people" that have explained why that's dumb are primarily myself and sunfan. Idk if anyone said it before me, even. I even deliberately chose to give you another day because of differences in our playstyle. Please don't insult me by trying to dismiss as a tell your lack of scumreads and wave it off as being "dumb". It's a tell whether you like it or not, but it's not so absolute that I'm basing everything on it. That's why I opted to give you another day, remember? The possibility that it is just a different approach to the game?

Good night.

[ShadoWolfe]

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.. One last thing:
I'm seriously considering the possibility that I was majorly wrong about Xel yesterday. Xel gets more self conscious as a wolf; I can see him freezing at EoD and not voting, and then freezing again on an entrance now as a result of not voting at EoD (despite posting in the time leading up to it).

Xel, post please.

[Witch of Certainty]

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This is my last post:
AA doesn't bus unless he absolutely has to. Same goes for sunfan (even more strict about no-bussing). Same goes for me.
I think, if you're wolf, AA never kills you instead of taking a possible townlynch. You say "fairly obvious save of a partner", but I think AA is also confident enough to save his partner and believe that he has the ability to talk himself out of resulting suspicion.

Also, the "people" that have explained why that's dumb are primarily myself and sunfan. Idk if anyone said it before me, even. I even deliberately chose to give you another day because of differences in our playstyle. Please don't insult me by trying to dismiss as a tell your lack of scumreads and wave it off as being "dumb". It's a tell whether you like it or not, but it's not so absolute that I'm basing everything on it. That's why I opted to give you another day, remember? The possibility that it is just a different approach to the game?

Good night.

Confident enough to save his partner by voting someone he hadn't wanted to lynch up until then?

And Proph, and me... sun talked about it first, I'm pretty sure.
If anything, it's a town tell, as sun, Proph, and I can and have brought up.
Let's make it clear: If you scumread someone for not being willing to make up suspicions because "they must have at least one!", it's dumb and I will say it's dumb.

[Hakulyte]

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Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
4 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya (94), AragakiAyase (263)
3 -- Witch of Certainty -- TWG Jade Harley (77), mellonxcollie (76), Hakulyte (272)
2 -- Prophylaxis -- Charu (313), ShadoWolfe (248)
2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Prophylaxis (75), Witch of Certainty (94)
1 -- thesunfan -- MixMasterLar (131)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)

Could it be that our dead players were actually voting the right person?

[Hakulyte]

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Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
4 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya (94), AragakiAyase (263)
3 -- Witch of Certainty -- TWG Jade Harley (77), mellonxcollie (76), Hakulyte (272)
2 -- Prophylaxis -- Charu (313), ShadoWolfe (248)
2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Prophylaxis (75), Witch of Certainty (94)
1 -- thesunfan -- MixMasterLar (131)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)

Could it be that our dead players were actually voting the right person?

Witch/Proph/AA ?

hmm

[Hakulyte]

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Could swap AA for Xel tbh.

[ShadoWolfe]

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Confident enough to save his partner by voting someone he hadn't wanted to lynch up until then?

If this were nearly as big a deal as you're trying to make it seem, then how are you so sure it isn't the case?
Sheeping last minute on a mislynch isnt the end-all and be-all of wolf activity. You can't seriously believe an experienced wolf wouldn't sheep as an absolute if you believe that the same player would sheep as town. Add in confidence in ability to avoid a lynch and the incentive of saving a wolf/ensurimg a mislynch, and I don't see where you're coming from one bit.

And Proph, and me... sun talked about it first, I'm pretty sure.
If anything, it's a town tell, as sun, Proph, and I can and have brought up.
Let's make it clear: If you scumread someone for not being willing to make up suspicions because "they must have at least one!", it's dumb and I will say it's dumb.

It's not a town tell at all. It's been a scumtell forever for the same reason you're trying to spin it for town: being "unwilling to make up suspicions".
This far into a game, it's hard to believe that you havent read anything at all that would cause you to have an opinion on any player's alignment. You should have read enough arguments from enough people to cause to read them a certain way. Not impossible, just highly unlikely considering your motivation as town is to solve the game.

[Hakulyte]

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I'm kinda sold on that Xel/Proph/Witch.

I think Shado/AA/Sunfan constantly lead to inconsistencies. I keep failing to pair any of them.

[ShadoWolfe]

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.. One last thing:
I'm seriously considering the possibility that I was majorly wrong about Xel yesterday. Xel gets more self conscious as a wolf; I can see him freezing at EoD and not voting, and then freezing again on an entrance now as a result of not voting at EoD (despite posting in the time leading up to it).

Xel, post please.

I retract the part of this that asserted Xel didn't vote.
The frozen part still holds, both for now and EoD. Here's his vote btw:

Fuck it

dbp

And again im at work so fuck off on the u delayed it crap

Xel, please post.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I'm kinda sold on that Xel/Proph/Witch.

I think Shado/AA/Sunfan constantly lead to inconsistencies. I keep failing to pair any of them.

Why are you trying to solve the game by pairing three people at a time?
What ties together Xel/Proph/Witch for you?
Did you seriously believe me, AA, and sunfan are wolves together? That we're all just continuously pushing and bussing each other as a wolf team for.. What, exactly? Shits, gigles, and spitting on every proclamation we've ever made about not bussing?