TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

Well, I guess the Chaos Wolf could be alive, but he would be the final wolf.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

And, despite the wolves being unable to target themselves for killings, I see no reason for wolves being unable to target each other with PRs.

This is a fair estimate. I've been operating under the same assumption.

1x Chaos Wolf - Paints a target's Adversary a colour of their choice. Until next power usage, that player will cardflip that colour. Cardflips a colour of their choice, except green.

The chaos wolf can't be green, but nothing says they can't make someone else green. There's a chance that CW painted an ally green N1 and then never used their power again.

This is a definite possibility.
Of note: I'm liking meno more here. His earlier reluctance to "dig" seems to have dissipated, and (in this post) he's actually bringing forward new ideas to thread that we haven't yet considered.

PoE still points to you, but I think I'm starting to see worlds where this isn't the case.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

You could tinfoil there's a grey Chaos Wolf or a Freeze Wolf, but if they were both wolves, I think V would have died by now because killing him before his final shot would be optimal play.

Meh, that's wrong, but the point is that I don't think it's particularly important.

[meno_rocks123]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

If V had died the night of his final shot, the action would have occurred before V died, so the person could still come out as confirmed. A challenge to that claim by another person would also end horribly for the wolf that claimed.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

You could tinfoil the Janitor Wolf being a Chaos Wolf who turned himself pink, but there's like absolutely nothing going on with pink flips in this entire game.

I really doubt any world where chaos wolf died with Xiz, and I doubt Aryxi would know to turn himself pink (he died thinking Xiz claimed green)

You could tinfoil there's a grey Chaos Wolf or a Freeze Wolf, but if they were both wolves, I think V would have died by now because killing him before his final shot would be optimal play.

Uhm.. Why? If who were both wolves? Even by your own reasoning, wouldn't have killing V been impossible before his final shot?

The green flips cannot be chaos wolves. I guess xel could be a chaos wolf who flipped himself red, but seriously, that would be some next level bs.

^seriously impossible

Even with a Chaos Wolf in this game;

1.) He's already dead.
2.) I'm still voting Shado here because of how interactions/actions went overall.

From your perspective (assuming you're not lying about AA), the Chaos Wolf has to be exactly jrodd, or jrodd is town.
If chaos wolf was alive, they would have flipped jrodd green (if he's a wolf), or gray (if he was town).
See where I'm coming from?

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

I just cannot remove tunnel vision from Shado this phase because in every scenarios where he's right, he's still the most interesting vote for me.

So, if you want to deal with this problem, you'll have to explain to me why raeko/meno is the better choice.

[Tokzic]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

@Tokzic, can Chaos wolves use their power to change other players' colors green?

Yes.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

why did jrodd get insta'd so fast?

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

i missed an entire phase because you guys insta'd so quickly

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

Would you have insta'd someone else? Did you read the phase?

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

he was obviously town painted grey by chaos wolf during an earlier phase when people stated who their allys and adversaries were in public so the wolves knew who was painted grey, then lynched in insta to try to progress the phases further and make people confused, but there's no way in any universe jrodd was a wolf here

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

the wolves wouldn't have been able to coordinate the earlier color flips in any way, and i see no reason not to trust xiz's flip as pink indicates janitor wolf

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

so someone on that jrodd wagon insta'd him to progress the phases quicker because they felt safer doing that then letting the phase play out longer

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

i have a pretty good idea of who the last wolf is but im going to watch this play out anymore since i don't want to take the lead on pushing a wagon yet

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

sunfan #1610
haku #1739
shado #1775
meno #1785

I'm concluding meno vs Shado.