TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

ok i am going to bed

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

Lmfao is this for real? Xiz are you wolfing? Resorting to calling me a liar because you can't actually do anything to me, just like in the turbo with funnygurl?

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

so let's see here

xiz calls me a wolf from the start, never gives a case on me on the grounds that I'll try to refute it, then goes to calling me a dirty liar with false pushes and lack of reading posts. I reISOd you just to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious, and no, I'm not. You call me a wolf, then refuse to give a case on me, refuse again, call me a wolf again, and now say I'm basically lock wolf and won't be moving your vote at all. I can understand the not moving if you're not going to be here, but you imply that you won't be moving because I"m a lock wolf, and I don't think town xiz is like this

anyway
AA wolf
sunfan probably wolf, will check again when I care
melon feels wolfy too

Xelnya feels really towny

idc about anyone else

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

Xiz: I'm serious
AA: Why, show me the posts
Xiz: [Shows posts]
AA: You are not reading my posts correctly
Xiz: Cool, but I read them like this
AA: Okay cool, but your wrong.
Xiz: Nah I think i'm right.
AA: But your wrong.


There I did our conversation.

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

Just as a reminder to everyone incase its forgotten:

I have little time to invest in this game but i'm trying to stay active. Walking to class and a few small things:


@AA Not just wolf but reading you in general, which is true. Also refer to my post about how our conversations go because NO TIME FOR DAT

@haku when you do something wired ill comment but your not on my radar

@aa im only unvoting because of v. read my posts, stop skimming.

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

. j-rodd
2. inDheart
3. thesunfan
4. Raeko
5. Meno
6. ShadoWolfe
7. Vendetta21
8. AragakiAyase
9. XelNya
10. Hakulyte


town to wolfy read atm ill explain later otnight

xel
sunfan
jrodd
meno

(everyone else)

aa
raeko

You are a dirty fucking liar

I will probably not rest until you are dead.

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

I'm getting triggered because AA continually fails to read my posts, fails to be open to opinions and pushes fake agendas.

aa

That's good enough for me for D1, I most likely wont be swapping.

I don't like a lot of what people have done this game.

- AA because of his lies, false pushes and lack of reading posts.
- Mellon because of her similarity to when I was a wolf with her last, along with I dislike how she sheep'd AA on AA's read on me, felt fake to gather steam. However Mellon for some reason is a little less wolfy then before to me, probably because of what sunfan thinks of her, i liked his analysis at the end on her.
- Sunfan could be a wolf, but I just said why. I still doubt it, and rather deal with him later then a dead sunfan d1.

Thats 3 haku so [shrug]

xiz is saying I'm not reading his posts because of what... The fact that I asked why he was unvoting me even though he had me in his wolf pile? yes, he had *one* post mentioning that, but I know I and everyone else in this thread forgets posts and doesn't constantly cross reference and also will just ask questions to clarify instead of reading the whole thread to find something that's not there, so I find this a very trivial thing to be hung up on, and not something worth scumreading for. Just to show you guys what I'm talking about though, here is turbo II where xiz was wolfing and couldn't do anything to me besides call me a liar and say I wasn't reading his posts:

Holy shit do you just skim my posts? Like if you are then I'll look the other way but holy shit it's like you haven't been reading my posts at all.

I'm going to say this for the 5th time now. Ethan, are you listening?

It's because of how confident charu thought zenith was town


Like please be honest with me ethan if you have been skimming my posts because you can't be this stupid

you are literally leaving out the main point of my argument, and twisting it to your advantage. Stop.

It was serious



Already responded to this. There were something like 3 or 4 cop claims some stronger then others or something during that time. If I was a wolf, like I said before, I would have gone hard in and used it to my advantage later proving how town I am by rescinding the next day or something.



Read the posts around this, specifically after this post. I don't feel like quoting. It's around 2 pages of this post. I stated IF arnt flips town, then I will look at funny due to how many town I had during that time.



I can't remember, I think I was looking at pairings, between you and funny but I don't think I got a lot out of it.




You missed the post where I said "thats all I want to say about that" to charu
I stopped talking about my thoughts on that situations for hoping the wolves would miss the cop.




Fuck. You. Ethan.

I posted that BEFORE you did. This post made you so fucking wolfy to me now holy shit. Stop trying to twist my wording, AGAIN.



Twisting my words again



Fair point. I disagree.



??? Th




Charu wasn't considering other options more. He was considering, but not the point of where he was willing to lynch outside.



Early gut read, like you said in the very first post. I didn't unvote because I saw the perspectives of (i think) cold kitten and I hated arnt's day 1. I was supportive. There are posts where I say I want to swap to zenith. But remember:

You hammered before I could swap

Don't use that shit logic with me

I'm looking at

AA/Ymia
AA/Charu now


Ethan unless you literally do a massive post explaining charu and funnygurl also, showing how THEY could be wolves, I think you will be my lynch for today.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

I understand that town xiz is confident in his scumreads

but I'm also 99% sure that town xiz doesn't lock in an early read like this and refuse to ever say why I'm a wolf, except for calling me a liar with fake pushes (oh and he also doesn't point out any examples of that)

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

thesunfan

way too much trepidation and too much of "i think X but i could be wrong" -- tone like this signals he is trying to control as much damage as possible on day 1, worried about being wrong this early is weird because he supposedly doesn't know anything so why does he have to preface everything he does with that uncertainty? clearly is thinking more about how things will shake out later

this is par for the course and I don't actually know how much experience you have with sunfan but if you have even a few games you'd know this

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

shit, thought you were gone

why do you care about mindmelding with me
why do you think you forgot about jrodd
do you think that raeko is too active to be a wolf
what do you think about the reads on her activity

also what are you shooting tomorrow

??? you have nothing to ask about his magical scumread on me that has absolutely no substance? do you think I'm, in Xiz's words:

You are a dirty fucking liar

I will probably not rest until you are dead.

stop pushing false narratives to make you seem like you are tryharding.

Also melon shame on you for believing him.

I'm getting triggered because AA continually fails to read my posts, fails to be open to opinions and pushes fake agendas.

aa

That's good enough for me for D1, I most likely wont be swapping.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

really don't like xiz's sudden reversal on sunfan being a wolf, he claims he mindmelds on V's point in addition to what's here

In other news, sunfan is no longer town to me, hes null. Mostly from lack of mindmeld and I dislike his evolution of reads. I probably will want him dead but I rather not have him dead today.

I don't see the case on Xel, I like him still

Null still on haku
Null still on indheart, leaning town slightly for literally no reason besides it seems genuine

which would seem to push sunfan to null, but ALL OF A SUDDEN

I dont really anymore, it's more that I miss it
he's not on my radar. I think I initially had a read on him but forgot it.
No, I dont see raeko activity = wolf
reads of her activity? I don't understand. Her reads are weak, but they are passable?

Also sunfan moved from null not wanting to lynch to wolf status.

I would never be that obvious about if I was a vigi sunfan, town sunfan would know that. I'm now fine with him dying.

this post is what puts sunfan in the wolf pile? really? this is such a very sunfan post and I'm sure you know that xiz

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

oops not clear because no nested quotes, click on that quote to see what I'm talking about

it's this post though

shit, thought you were gone

why do you care about mindmelding with me
why do you think you forgot about jrodd
do you think that raeko is too active to be a wolf
what do you think about the reads on her activity

also what are you shooting tomorrow

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

ok I like V a lot more now, in addition to him actually posting I like how he's switched focus to xiz. when I saw the suspicions of sunfan out of nowhere (V, then xiz in that order) I was thinking of a potential V/xiz partnership to kill someone who I think is fairly towny this game, but I think V's suspicion of xiz for "mindmelding" with him is what I'd expect from a town who lacks additional information and is therefore constantly questioning

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

because i haven't been thinking about my vote since i placed it and have been more focused on articulating my thoughts and reading, but obviously xiz

oh even better

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

xel what's your problem with me exactly? because reading your quoted posts it seems like you don't like that I'm asking questions and thinking about the game

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

I really don't like Xiz aorn. His progression on sunfan seemed really opportunistic. He goes from saying sunfan is null (but that he doesn't want him dead today), to wanting him lynched asap really really quickly.







To seeing an opportunity when Vendetta came in out of nowhere with a vote on sunfan:






To escalating all the way to a "let's lynch him today", for something that wasn't even said. It reads to me like Xiz got a little excited when he saw Vendetta's vote, and that translated to being trigger-happy over perceptions made too quickly:


Considering that "what are you shooting tomorrow" should obviously refer to the filming that Xiz mentioned was being done, and that Xiz would have no reason to escalate that quickly over something that small unless he really wanted sunfan dead and saw an opportunity in V's vote.

oh now it looks like I copied shado shado probably town for the mindmeld though

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

haku
sunfan
shado
jrodd
mellon
V

meno
ind

xel
xiz

a little concerned about jrodd because absence always makes me wary. V palegreen still because I'm wondering if he's just a wolf who made a burst of energy not to get lynched, but his recent posts were quite towny. xiz because I've made my case already. xel's posts and readlists don't really make sense to me and don't seem great, I'll reread the readlist more indepth later but eh. ind really lacks presence this game, I remember him saying to me when we were both town that he always lacks presence, but that string of posts with him commenting on a few things and then not making any substantial reads felt very weak.

ind posts starting here is what I'm talking about:

i'm starting to wonder what a towny late opening or catchup even looks like, i feel like i don't see quality ones often

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

OK

I'm curious if anyone actually shares xiz's sentiment, it seems like xel is independently wolfreading me for something else but I'm not actually sure what it is because he never says it clearly

I'm also curious who else thinks xiz is a wolf besides me/V/shado

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

these have to not be ordered, please tell me they're not ordered

this just feels fake and also is kind of a random thing to take strong issue with

like if they're ordered, then ??? but since they're most likely not ordered, why raise a fuss?

haku
xel
sunfan
jrodd
aa
xiz
raeko/meno
shado
V

aorn

unvote simply because i don't know what v's at

some of these feel criminally low but that's what happens when you put everyone in a list

readslist but ? no real reads here or anywhere else in the sequence of posts