TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[AragakiAyase]

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HI AA! What's up? How do you feel about Shadow right now that gives him such a weird colour? Maybe your thoughts on Xiz too?

I don't like xiz's push on me and how he refuses to give a case on the grounds that I'll just try to refute it and we'll disagree. even if he thinks that will happen (and it probably would), it doesn't help anyone else get a better read on him and it also doesn't let me see where he's coming from. However, I don't think his being intentionally annoying/stubborn is necessarily a wolfy trait, and he also feels very different from last game where he was a wolf.

I also don't really like shado's push on me, I thought the initial piece was good but I stand by my statement that he cherrypicked by not including ind's response which invalidates part of his premise. I don't get any particularly wolfy vibes from him but nothing to make me think he's towny either, I think he's capable of pushing out in all directions early. gun to my head I'd say he's town though

what do you think of haku's argument with you? does it lean him wolfy or towny in your eyes, and why?

[AragakiAyase]

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how likely do you think it is that meno gets lynched at some point this game as either alignment

eh

fairly likely? he's been incredibly underwhelming, and if I compare this to the turbo he played where even when he wasn't present much, his moments were decent, then this feels like nagl

[AragakiAyase]

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Fair enough. I guess I could see that as a basis for that question.


Why's this? Missed it the first time, but it didn't seem alignment indicative to me. Do you just like it when peeps say they don't know things?


It's not. A good part of your scumhunting is always forceful. I expect forcefulness from you. That part seemed off to me because it's what you were being forceful about that stuck out. It seemed like an inane thing to fixate on. Wasn't sure if you were just trying to pick something to be forceful about in attempt to seem town or not.


Yeah.. I think I might've been tunneling a bit at that point. A little over an hour ago, I would've sworn that you were a wolf who was scummily trying to frame me when I wasn't here.
Don't really think that's the case anymore after reading both my initial issues with you and your responses.


I read all the posts up until that point. I got the feeling she was being genuine. I said I wanted to look more closely into it, but that those were my initial thoughts. There a problem with that?



I thought it was redundant in that I thought he'd answer yes, but I thought it was a pointless thing to fixate on because he made it clear he thought you were acting scummy. I see where you're coming from, just not sure of your intentions.



All the rest of your posts? They seemed pretty par for the course, from what I remember. You're very hard to read, so I guess I might've fixated on what I thought was a bigger issue than it was in the hopes that I had caught you slipping. The fact that I responded to a post you hadn't even directed at me kinda shows me how tunneled I was, so I'ma reassess and move you back to null for now.

oh

I'm biased because shado is not as tunneled on me now but this makes the lean go a bit towards the town side, I think wolf shado would be more likely to continue the tunnel and see if he could get people to jump on this wagon

[thesunfan]

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if raeko is a wolf and Haku is owning her I'm gonna laugh my ass off btw
I don't think that's what's happening but I hope it is just because

[Hakulyte]

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Why's this? Missed it the first time, but it didn't seem alignment indicative to me. Do you just like it when peeps say they don't know things?

I do like it when people say they don't know things. It's better than "I don't understand, I am human because I am human."

I read all the posts up until that point. I got the feeling she was being genuine. I said I wanted to look more closely into it, but that those were my initial thoughts. There a problem with that?

Yeah, I feel like she's pulling all her hat tricks already and it's only D0.

[ShadoWolfe]

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if raeko is a wolf and Haku is owning her I'm gonna laugh my ass off btw
I don't think that's what's happening but I hope it is just because

This would be hilarious, but I really don't think that's what's happening.

You've played a fair number of games with Raeko, right? What's she like as an active wolf? In every game I've seen her wolfing, she's gone UTR, but since she was just called out on that last game and ended up being a wolf, I really doubt she'd adopt the same strat again as wolf.

At the same time, just the fact that she's posting often and posting naturally (as far as I can tell) is making me read her town. From your experience with her, is there anything you'd be looking for from an active, wolf Raeko?

Anyone who's played with active wolf Raeko should also respond, please.

[Hakulyte]

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You guys are acting like raeko can't adapt her meta.

zzz..

[AragakiAyase]

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You guys are acting like raeko can't adapt her meta.

zzz..

adapting your meta isn't *that* hard

doing it while sounding natural is

[mellonxcollie]

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I don't like xiz's push on me and how he refuses to give a case on the grounds that I'll just try to refute it and we'll disagree. even if he thinks that will happen (and it probably would), it doesn't help anyone else get a better read on him and it also doesn't let me see where he's coming from. However, I don't think his being intentionally annoying/stubborn is necessarily a wolfy trait, and he also feels very different from last game where he was a wolf.

I agree with you about Xiz on that point. I'm still awaiting his return to the thread to see if he does end up expanding on his views.

what do you think of haku's argument with you? does it lean him wolfy or towny in your eyes, and why?

I think it seems wolfy just because it does not seem super genuine to me. It seems like he is running with one small thread and not really making a great case. He's trying to make it seem like I am playing UTR intentionally all the time including during this game which just isn't happening. Usually when someone is trying to craft a specific narrative that doesn't have much base in the current game it is "NAGL"

if raeko is a wolf and Haku is owning her I'm gonna laugh my ass off btw
I don't think that's what's happening but I hope it is just because

mean

[ShadoWolfe]

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I do like it when people say they don't know things. It's better than "I don't understand, I am human because I am human."

Hm, this sounds vaguely familiar :3

Yeah, I feel like she's pulling all her hat tricks already and it's only D0.

What hat tricks would those be? I read your summary of Raeko strats and, while I agree that she's tended to go UTR as woof lately, I didn't find any of the rest of it applicable to this game.
I thought her hat trick was "hide until called out, then drop a reaction, some {deep thoughts}, an excuse, and then disappear". That's not happening this game though, either, so what ones are you referring to?

[Hakulyte]

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You're not playing UTR "this game", you're playing UTR "normally".

[AragakiAyase]

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haku forget raeko for now and look elsewhere

do you have any other suspects? who are your townreads (and why if possible)?

[mellonxcollie]

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I do like it when people say they don't know things. It's better than "I don't understand, I am human because I am human."

My point is that pretending to be an human as human is weird when done multiple times.

You can't pretend to be human if you actually are human. So what you're saying is literally impossible

I DON'T WANT TO VOTE YOU RIGHT NOW but I really don't know wtf you're talking about please explain

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I did not understand what you meant by "pretending to be an human as human". Despite my asking what you meant you kept talking about other things and not explaining that statement like I'd asked. which was very avoidant and made it seem like you were just pushing on me for the sake of it.

anywaysssss

[Hakulyte]

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I did not understand what you meant by "pretending to be an human as human". Despite my asking what you meant you kept talking about other things and not explaining that statement like I'd asked. which was very avoidant and made it seem like you were just pushing on me for the sake of it.

anywaysssss

Okay, I can play this too.

I don't understand why you don't understand.

[mellonxcollie]

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Okay, I can play this too.

I don't understand why you don't understand.

Someone can't "pretend" to be something if they actually are that thing. That's why it's a very confusing statement. I pretty much understood by the implications in your other posts, but that still doesn't change the fact that you didn't explain

Anyways I'm done talking about this because I want to actually ya know find wolves unlike other people who don't seem too concerned with doing that