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  • ShadoWolfe
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2009
    • 171

    #1171
    Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

    Then the wolf is pretty well hidden and it'll be a tough f3





    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
    Originally posted by XelNya
    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
    Originally posted by YoshL
    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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    • ShadoWolfe
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2009
      • 171

      #1172
      Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

      K bout to head home brb in about 30-40m





      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
      Originally posted by XelNya
      " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
      Originally posted by YoshL
      "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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      • ShadoWolfe
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2009
        • 171

        #1173
        Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

        Home. I'ma eat and start on these ISOs. I hate that turbos basically require you to post in the morning /afternoon or be read scum. Most of my posts in longer games are written after 10pm PST because that's when I'm most free. I feel like all of my best pushes took place really late at night (like 2am), as opposed to turbo timing (like 2pm)





        Originally posted by Hakulyte
        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
        Originally posted by XelNya
        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
        Originally posted by YoshL
        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
        Originally posted by mellon_collie
        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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        • inDheart
          Picker @ JAX2
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2011
          • 505

          #1174
          Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

          No votes recorded

          Not voting: AragakiAyase, Charu, DaBackpack, ShadoWolfe, YoshL

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          • AragakiAyase
            Waifus
            • Apr 2015
            • 961

            #1175
            Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

            idk shado, I read your posts and they all seem plausible but I just don't buy it

            part of the problem is a lot of your reasoning hinges on you being busy. and as I said, I get that real life happens, but it's always going to affect my read on players when they don't produce as much because of IRL

            and for better or worse, it looks like you passed over FG as a "genuine" toneread, and now it looks bad because she flipped wolf

            and as I've pointed out, you made your scumread of dfr, and basically left it there and didn't try to see where he was coming from, which reads to me like you were very ok with the lynch and not trying to think about the possibility where he was town

            it still seems like you were soft defending me whenever people pushed on me in the hopes that when I flipped town you'd look better for it

            the final nail is that you don't seem to be considering a lot of alternate scenarios that could be happening in the case that I'm town

            like if you're town, here are some possible scenarios from your POV:

            yoshl pushing a scumread on me, then being gone for a while, then coming back in to bus FG is now content to let you and me fight because he knows we're TvT

            charu going for a massive bus in the hopes of looking really good and now letting a TvT fight again

            DBP sitting on the sidelines after faking his waffling to once again bus

            yes, pretty much all of these scenarios require bussing. but from your point of view if you're town you have to think one of us bussed

            also DBP where are you?

            pikakirby123 reincarnated





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            • AragakiAyase
              Waifus
              • Apr 2015
              • 961

              #1176
              Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

              Originally posted by DaBackpack
              gut is telling me shadow > yoshl wins us the game

              in a distant third is charu????
              any thoughts over gut

              pikakirby123 reincarnated





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              • AragakiAyase
                Waifus
                • Apr 2015
                • 961

                #1177
                Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                writing another post right now, but hold the fuck up

                Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                I hope so. You'll know if you do it



                This is a different tone than any I've seen DFR use, and it's right after AA called him out, then took it back and said "idk because he didn't flip out"...
                DFR did you roll woof again?


                Why?
                Read what I just wrote and then respond. It's weird to me that you'd let him off the hook so easy



                Pretty confident in DFR rn. Tone is really unlike him and his responses aren't what I expect from town DFR. I just came off a game with this feeling and wish I had pushed harder on it sooner

                all caught up again
                Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                Quoting so it doesn't get buried. ^

                I'm kinda buying YoshLs claim of a baitvote. Sounds like something he'd do and the rest of his game has read like the pushy town he was in the FE game.

                Most concerned about Rapta atm, followed by DFR and Gradiant (his posts so far have all been either brief reactions/responses, or shitposts earlier in the game). Gradiant's contrasting pretty majorly with what I expected to see after his towngame in CLIX.
                you vote dfr, but then here you say you're most concerned about rapta? rapta didn't really post much in between these posts and you only mentioned your scumread about dfr in between here, this doesn't really add up

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                • AragakiAyase
                  Waifus
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 961

                  #1178
                  Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                  I get that he's a new player and all but I feel like you would've at least pressured him there instead of voting dfr

                  pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                  • AragakiAyase
                    Waifus
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 961

                    #1179
                    Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                    I guess another thing is that your reads have been "safe"

                    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                    First impressions :
                    Charu being weird but haven't seen his scumtell yet
                    YoshL I thought was being wolfy for a couple of his responses but he looks town after catching up
                    AA null but looks towny as usual
                    Gradiant seems off but I can't place it
                    Rapta I think actually slipped, kinda don't wanna lynch him D0 but scumlean so far and RNG doesnt care if a player is new
                    FG posted even less than me so far so null til I see more of her
                    DFR reading similarly to last game so far, and his big post really brought effortwolfing to mind
                    DBP I don't even recall having an opinion on will have to reread.

                    K brb pizza
                    meta on charu (being weird, but no scumtell)
                    safe on yoshl (seemed wolfy, but now towny)
                    meta on AA
                    meta on gradiant (seems off)
                    slip but new player (tbf no one wants to go after the new player)
                    fg null (fair because she hadn't posted)
                    dfr meta
                    dbp no opinion

                    yes I know this is your first impression

                    let's see how the rest of your reads develop

                    you point out some examples of tone from dfr (this is a little bit better than meta): http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=452

                    mention slip/flakey from rapta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=457

                    a little more quantification of dfr read: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=482

                    aa meta defense: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=488

                    yoshl meta read and gradiant meta read: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=517

                    aa meta defense: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=532

                    rapta newness and gradiant meta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=546

                    townread of freezin, but more importantly, notes the interaction between dfr/me and still just chooses to sit back: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=684

                    a little bit of content on dfr, newness of rapta, aa meta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=733

                    d0 is mostly meta, I get that it's d0 but I feel like it's very safe; doesn't really go after the content of the posts, it's even more subjective than normal

                    d1 is pretty meh, you basically tunnel on me after touching upon t-force, then replace t-force with dbp and leave yoshl/charu alone

                    also this post feels really fake:


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                    • AragakiAyase
                      Waifus
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 961

                      #1180
                      Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                      ok I think I'm done wallposting

                      pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                      • ShadoWolfe
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 171

                        #1181
                        Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                        Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                        idk shado, I read your posts and they all seem plausible but I just don't buy it

                        part of the problem is a lot of your reasoning hinges on you being busy. and as I said, I get that real life happens, but it's always going to affect my read on players when they don't produce as much because of IRL
                        That's fine, I understand that my being busy will inevitably affect my posting. Since posts are ultimately the measure we use in reading people, it's only logical that having less time to commit to the game would influence how a person is read.
                        That's why I'm prioritizing TWG in my free time today.

                        Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                        and for better or worse, it looks like you passed over FG as a "genuine" toneread, and now it looks bad because she flipped wolf

                        and as I've pointed out, you made your scumread of dfr, and basically left it there and didn't try to see where he was coming from, which reads to me like you were very ok with the lynch and not trying to think about the possibility where he was town

                        it still seems like you were soft defending me whenever people pushed on me in the hopes that when I flipped town you'd look better for it
                        I'm aware of all of that as well, especially considering I was basically the only person reading FG town. I've just resolved to not stress about any of that shit affecting how I'm read, do what I can to solve the game today, and let the chips fall where they may. I feel like we're in a good spot to win this game, even if I'm mislynched today, and almost feel like my slot would be a hindrance in f3 if we were to mislynch anyone else. I'm like slowly coming to terms with how my lynch could be good even as a miss, and basically just wanting to get post-mortem revenge on the bastard that caused me this grief in the first place.

                        Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                        the final nail is that you don't seem to be considering a lot of alternate scenarios that could be happening in the case that I'm town

                        like if you're town, here are some possible scenarios from your POV:

                        yoshl pushing a scumread on me, then being gone for a while, then coming back in to bus FG is now content to let you and me fight because he knows we're TvT

                        charu going for a massive bus in the hopes of looking really good and now letting a TvT fight again

                        DBP sitting on the sidelines after faking his waffling to once again bus
                        Trust me, I've considered all of those scenarios and more, including the one (not assuming you're town) where you pulled a massive bus on FG yesterday in a successful effort to be read town. Those possibilities are why I reset my reads, and why I'm spending hours combing through ISOs.





                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                        Originally posted by YoshL
                        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                        Originally posted by mellon_collie
                        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                        • AragakiAyase
                          Waifus
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 961

                          #1182
                          Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                          I feel like charu/yoshl/dbp are just watching me and shado fight and it's making me have second thoughts

                          pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                          • Charu
                            Snivy! Dohoho!
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6207

                            #1183
                            Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                            I feel like charu/yoshl/dbp are just watching me and shado fight and it's making me have second thoughts
                            Yep, also just got home and I'm on the shitter


                            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                            Had a very shiny nose
                            And if you ever saw it
                            You could even say it glows

                            All of the other Snivies
                            Used to laugh and call him names
                            They never let poor Charu
                            Join in any Snivy games

                            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                            • ShadoWolfe
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 171

                              #1184
                              Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                              Originally posted by AragakiAyase
                              writing another post right now, but hold the fuck up





                              you vote dfr, but then here you say you're most concerned about rapta? rapta didn't really post much in between these posts and you only mentioned your scumread about dfr in between here, this doesn't really add up
                              I thought I had DFR nailed there. Like, I was super convinced he was wolf after the last game I played with him. I don't know how else to say it. Clearly it was a shitty read now that he's flipped, but I would've bet good money on him being a wolf that day, that's why he got my vote.

                              I was most concerned with Rapta because I was worried he'd be let off the hook as a new player, while DFR and Gradiant had no such excuse.

                              Either way, I was wrong on all three of those and FG, so it's already been proven that my reads this game have been shit. Hence the reset, despite my ego itching to tell me that the one I'm not wrong on is you.

                              Either way, we'll see. I should have this post up soon.





                              Originally posted by Hakulyte
                              I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                              Originally posted by mellon_collie
                              "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                              • AragakiAyase
                                Waifus
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 961

                                #1185
                                Re: TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

                                honestly shado's responses aren't bad

                                but my view of his performance this game is

                                it seems almost too easy that the only person not intending to vote fg is the last wolf, but...

                                dbp talk to me, what do you think right now

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