TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[AragakiAyase]

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i wouldn't throw him out based on that though lol

yeah I think it's also much easier for lost wolves to fake than normal wolves

need to look closely at aryxi/storn today, pazzaz as well

[R.E. Aryxi]

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So what I get is you're town reading most people but have a scumlean on Storn, kinda weary of Haku and what looks like a null/slight scumread on Pazzaz?

Is that correct?

Also



Admitting to it is fine, but remember to use your own criticisms to improve your game. Not only does it help us out this game but you'll be a better player in the future for it

Correct

[R.E. Aryxi]

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@aryxi, nice of you to post a reads list. caught up now? also can we expect more from you this phase?

storn

All caught up and definitely will be more active.

[storn42]

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I feel like storn has not taken any strong stances this game, something he actually will do as town

wolfy

Is this to say that i DONT take strong stances as a woof? or only that i haven' this game?

[AragakiAyase]

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Is this to say that i DONT take strong stances as a woof? or only that i haven' this game?

That's what I think, yes

Also even if your meta is not to take strong stances in general, it allows you to be unaccountable
Start making opinions

[AragakiAyase]

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Haku any thoughts on today so far

[Hakulyte]

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Is this to say that i DONT take strong stances as a woof? or only that i haven' this game?

You should try to clarify both situations if possible. It's not something I ever paid attention to before and I'm curious about your own stance over yourself.

[Hakulyte]

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Haku any thoughts on today so far

Yeah, I expected a mountain of posts over interactions around Charu/T-Force.

I'm greated with a wall of quotes between you and MML.

Not exactly what I expected.

[Hakulyte]

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I'm sort of mad at T-Force because he didn't really claim until 5 min into EoD.

If he claimed at the 20 min mark instead, I believe there was some possible play to do because that would have left just enough time to react without being completely a CFD.

That made his claim looks less believable and the rest actually kept voting him instead of backing off.

One person got worried and actually changed his vote.

Pazzaz changed to Storn.

I'm interested to hear about it.

[Hakulyte]

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Oh, Pazzaz changed a MML vote into Storn42.

Derp. Okay, let me revisit EoD.

[Hakulyte]

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Well, all things considered that's still weird. It does hint at the same reasons as going from T-Force to Storn.

[mellonxcollie]

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Alright I’m pretty much caught up with the thread.

so I definitely understand the suspicion surrounding Storn. During my reading of the thread several of his posts stuck out to me.

charu

oh's are not contentful posts. and i cant tell whether or not i like you from them. post more content so you can be read like a cute snivy coloring book

Kinda seems like a soft call out from wolf to potential wolf partner. He put a bit of pressure on Charu in order to be able to read him better which is normal. But the way he said it seems like he wanted it to be easy to read Charu, like he was asking for a clear signal. And this is not the last time he mentioned Charu. He seemed to have a bit of a focus on Charu this game, as though he were trying to read him in a particular way.

what i dont like is that recently we found the whole charu mindmelds with me as a woof when im town, this has been proven through the last game. Him trying a gimmik that makes him hard to read just kind of says something about that. This happens to be his first woof game (assuming he rolls woof) since that kind of came up.

This again gives vibes of softly calling Charu out. “Mindmelds with me as a wolf when I’m town”, obviously he is going to say that he is town. but he is implying Charu is a wolf “mindmelding” with him as town is bizarre. Seems more like a wolf would mindmeld with another wolf. And then he once again claims Charu is hard to read, urging Charu to give him some sort of signal.

I was getting these sorts of vibes from him yesterday while reading Day 0. I was trying to focus on these sort of potential wolf call outs from any player. Then comes along this freaking post

Aight, so people seem to be confused (or atleast were) about the charu NK. Its as simple as this, on N1 you woof check your partners by NKing them to see if they die. If they dont, well either you are unlucky, or they are one of your parnters. If no kill happens you have more information to play with, and information is everything in this game. Cleary with the way charu was acting it would make sense that i would want to send a NK on him to make sure he isn't town. Seeing that he died, im less likely to try and defend him on accident thinking that he is a woof partner when he isn't. that said, still sucks for woofs that they nked the miller.

This is such a wolf mindset to have. First of all, he said “I” would want to send a NK and “I’m” less likely to defend a possible wolf partner. This is a slip if I’ve ever seen one. It’s possible that he was just super duper putting himself into the mindset of a wolf, but come on.

It’s possible storn is just outlining exactly what he actually did as a wolf in this game, hoping that everyone would assume he wouldn’t do something so obvious. I’ve done this as a wolf before.

I was having these feelings about him as I read the thread yesterday even before Charu died. Coupled with the way he was acting regarding Charu on D0, this post about Charu’s death is just too perfect. Signs point to Storn thinking of Charu as a potential partner. That post seems very well thought out from a wolf’s perspective and like storn has concrete knowledge of how the wolves chose their kill. The fact that it was Charu really doesn't look good for Storn

[Hakulyte]

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The last game where I was with Storn was Fire Emblem and I somehow completely misread him.

Is there a way to know that this is more wolfy than towny from Storn?

I tend to town read him when he's acting wolfy like he's doing in these posts, but this is all meta.

Is there more to it that I just don't know?

[Hakulyte]

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Actually, I really like your very last paragraph/explanation.

[mellonxcollie]

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incoming effort posts about other things in a bit. I have a lot of other thoughts about things I'm just going to post em quick now and expand later when I have more time

I kept forgetting about dadcop during my reading. not sure what that says about dadcop or maybe my reading abilities

Pazzaz seems like they are trying to blend into the background intentionally.

I'm sure she could get away with it for 2 days worth of play since everyone appears to be ignoring that slot right now and I fully, fully expect her to take advantage of that.

I'm pretty sure the slot is red though so I don't expect her to even reply to me, or look in the thread at all until tomorrow. We'll see.

kinda sketchy to put false ideas into people's heads. Very negative attitude toward me right off the bat makes it seem like you're pushing an agenda. Having predetermined expectations in a game of werewolf is a good way to make bad reads. Or if you're a wolf it's a good way to push people without having to find anything they've done within the game

My town reads right now include Haku, AA and DFR. Freezin is seeming town too