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  • Charu
    Snivy! Dohoho!
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 6207

    #856
    Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

    Give reasons for both


    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
    Had a very shiny nose
    And if you ever saw it
    You could even say it glows

    All of the other Snivies
    Used to laugh and call him names
    They never let poor Charu
    Join in any Snivy games

    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


    Originally posted by Vendetta21
    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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    • inDheart
      Picker @ JAX2
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2011
      • 505

      #857
      Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

      haku, i have a plan you can put into action if you're game for it

      trying to figure out the best way to convey it to you

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      • theknightsofneeee
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2016
        • 4

        #858
        Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

        Originally posted by Charu
        I was just saying fear kill because that's generally how AA always gets NK'd. It's never because he was actually legit read as a PR. (Seriously, it's probably been ages since he was NK'd for actually being read one).

        But, thesunfan knows AA is pretty good at going back to his solid town reads. AA is just like that.

        So when AA said he was okay with thesunfan. I didn't believe it for a second. He's the type of player to always keep a check on players he finds most towny in his eyes.

        *Shrug*

        I would have to probably do some deep reading on AA's post to see where in the world he might've let slip that he was a PR, but as of current, nothing is telling me he was ever read as one.
        meh

        but I don't see why that would point towards sunfan specifically over anyone else tho?

        AA got fearkilled last game too iirc, and sunfan wasn't even playing



        Don't get me wrong, him pushing through the dfr lynch, specially through the soft claim, is pretty wolfy, but I think thats the reason to wolf read him, not the AA kill (imo)

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        • theknightsofneeee
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2016
          • 4

          #859
          Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

          etyl

          why/how could you possibly think I'm a wolf?

          like dafuq?

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          • Etylukah
            Ultimate Gamer
            • May 2009
            • 491

            #860
            Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

            Originally posted by theknightsofneeee
            etyl

            why/how could you possibly think I'm a wolf?

            like dafuq?
            I had a shot on you for half of the night because you're insanely self-conscious while posting and you sound like the perfect person to fabricate their entire game + dumb tells.

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            • inDheart
              Picker @ JAX2
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2011
              • 505

              #861
              Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

              my scumread on mml

              this is in response to me talking about dadcop's "i have my role and i'm just looking out for myself" post:

              *
              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
              I mean

              It's a stretch and if it's true he'll show it.

              I also might be missing what Charu meant but I don't rreeeaaalllyyy want to state it in the weird event that it's actually true.
              and after that he's still scumreading dadcop, and there's talk of "pressure" between them:

              Originally posted by MixMasterLar
              Oh where you not pressured?

              What is this that DFR quoted me
              ? Or all the post before it? Or our entire interaction?

              When have you not been pressured is the better question
              i would say he really wants a dadcop wagon to be a thing.

              since it's passed now, i can say i was PR reading dadcop. mml's first post quoted above looks to me like he's on a hunt for PRs. and PRs in this game are actually more common than scum purely from a chance perspective.

              the thing is, he's fine pushing dadcop into claiming if that was true. like, that's where he spent most of his time yesterday. i don't remember him moving until my wagon appeared and he thought it would be a good/safe time for omgus, and he seemed really disappointed dadcop lynch wasn't happening even then iirc.

              i left out grabbing some quotes because mq isn't working and posting like this is obnoxious UGH

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              • theknightsofneeee
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2016
                • 4

                #862
                Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                Originally posted by Etylukah
                I had a shot on you for half of the night because you're insanely self-conscious while posting and you sound like the perfect person to fabricate their entire game + dumb tells.
                a) i'm self concious/self aware regardless of my alignment. Its just how I play.

                b) i have fabricated a dumb tell once as a wolf (i've played about 7 wolf games), but I didn't get cleared for it, and the intention of the dumbtell was actually to push someone with it, and not get cleared for it when I did it. And yes, I am very capable of fabricating my entire game, and I would say tone is the thing you should read me the least on; you should read me based on the quality of my pushes, whether or not I pushed wolves, and WHY i'm pushing people.


                My mindsets on how I approach the game are:

                as a villager, you want to keep track of people's reads/opinions on you because it lets you corral votes on wolfy villagers/wolves if you're widely town read or to convince people that you are town if alot of people are scumreading you and you might be up for mislynch.

                as a wolf, you want to convince villagers to back off of voting/lynching you, and survive as long as possible, while pushing/lynching villagers in a genuine/real way. And that requires that you also keep track of how much influence you have ITG, so you can use it/try to bolster it when necessary.


                would you like me to link you some villager/wolf games from my main sites so you can see the difference?

                this is 100% my villager game.

                You can tell it is because of the WHY i'm pushing people.

                I'm not omgus'ing as much (you can try and argue that I'm omgus'ing mellon, but i'm not. I've scumreading her because her reason for keeping her vote on me is completely nonexistant. She literally said that I was town, and then kept voting me) and I have genuine/real reasons for my pushes.

                I think its pretty evident tbh..

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                • inDheart
                  Picker @ JAX2
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 505

                  #863
                  Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                  i was also mistaken and thought this was a 9 player game so today would be mylo, gg me

                  the thought of vig making a bad shot and putting us in mylo was really tearing me up this morning

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                  • Etylukah
                    Ultimate Gamer
                    • May 2009
                    • 491

                    #864
                    Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                    Originally posted by theknightsofneeee
                    a) i'm self concious/self aware regardless of my alignment. Its just how I play.

                    b) i have fabricated a dumb tell once as a wolf (i've played about 7 wolf games), but I didn't get cleared for it, and the intention of the dumbtell was actually to push someone with it, and not get cleared for it when I did it. And yes, I am very capable of fabricating my entire game, and I would say tone is the thing you should read me the least on; you should read me based on the quality of my pushes, whether or not I pushed wolves, and WHY i'm pushing people.


                    My mindsets on how I approach the game are:

                    as a villager, you want to keep track of people's reads/opinions on you because it lets you corral votes on wolfy villagers/wolves if you're widely town read or to convince people that you are town if alot of people are scumreading you and you might be up for mislynch.

                    as a wolf, you want to convince villagers to back off of voting/lynching you, and survive as long as possible, while pushing/lynching villagers in a genuine/real way. And that requires that you also keep track of how much influence you have ITG, so you can use it/try to bolster it when necessary.


                    would you like me to link you some villager/wolf games from my main sites so you can see the difference?

                    this is 100% my villager game.

                    You can tell it is because of the WHY i'm pushing people.

                    I'm not omgus'ing as much (you can try and argue that I'm omgus'ing mellon, but i'm not. I've scumreading her because her reason for keeping her vote on me is completely nonexistant. She literally said that I was town, and then kept voting me) and I have genuine/real reasons for my pushes.

                    I think its pretty evident tbh..
                    I'm pretty sure you should know that if you know your own meta you can make it evolve so it fits your game. I believe that's what is happening right now.

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                    • theknightsofneeee
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 4

                      #865
                      Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                      Originally posted by Etylukah
                      I'm pretty sure you should know that if you know your own meta you can make it evolve so it fits your game. I believe that's what is happening right now.
                      okay...

                      but I don't have any meta here.

                      I don't have to make my meta fit jack shit.

                      so I could just blatently wolf if I was a wolf.

                      And I am a STRONG advocate for powerwolfing (never voting/pushing your wolf bro's) as a wolf, because people will still read you wrongly even if you are blatent about your wolfing.

                      sooo? your reason doesn't make sense.

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                      • theknightsofneeee
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 4

                        #866
                        Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                        like, i'm legit telling you how to read me.

                        I understand 'you could be a wolf here lying/wifom'ing' blah blah blah.. but I'm not.

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                        • Etylukah
                          Ultimate Gamer
                          • May 2009
                          • 491

                          #867
                          Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                          No, you're the one who doesn't understand, I am Haku and I am wolf reading you.

                          You have to convince me that you're a wolf to get a town read.

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                          • inDheart
                            Picker @ JAX2
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 505

                            #868
                            Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by theknightsofneeee
                            And I am a STRONG advocate for powerwolfing (never voting/pushing your wolf bro's) as a wolf, because people will still read you wrongly even if you are blatent about your wolfing.

                            sooo? your reason doesn't make sense.
                            i believe this is something sunfan would also agree with, and i don't think he would soft bus you early game if you were partners

                            disagree with haku's assessment

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                            • Charu
                              Snivy! Dohoho!
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 6207

                              #869
                              Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                              Nee, I present to you... the power of Haku.


                              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                              Had a very shiny nose
                              And if you ever saw it
                              You could even say it glows

                              All of the other Snivies
                              Used to laugh and call him names
                              They never let poor Charu
                              Join in any Snivy games

                              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                              • Etylukah
                                Ultimate Gamer
                                • May 2009
                                • 491

                                #870
                                Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                                For the audience:

                                I am trying to force neeee to drop any sort of wifom read due to the inexistence of PRs to protect.

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