2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

[Felyx]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Yeah, a AAA fest round 1 is a good way to ensure I stop caring about this tournament pretty quickly. RIP.

[DDRNGGin]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

This is not necessarily a AAA fest based round; however, it is a strong focus for it. If no teams do achieve a full team AAA, then teams that are the closest will have the credits added to the team pot. We will try our best to avoid the AAA based stuff to the best of our abilities for now. My apologies for any inconveniences.

[Ihavenoname248]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

The issue with the set-up for this round is threefold:
* Binary goal
* Real time focused
* Exclusionary difficulty

The issue with AAA-ing things is that it's binary: either you have it or you don't.

The issue with real time being an aspect is that some people are just busier than others, some people won't see this until the following day, etc.

That last point isn't entirely obvious, but, well... you went off the token unlocks, which do vary from the division boundaries. I'd say that the average FFR-er can AAA something 2 or 3 levels below their own level, with some fluctuation in both directions (your own +9 Flight of the Bumblebee, my -9 ABCDEath until I got HELLBEAT for -2)

D1 needs to AAA something in the 1-27 range while being in the 1-21 range. No problems here other than Excite Bike is literally free.
D2 needs to AAA something in the 28-49 range while being in the 22-45 range. This is starting to show the issue: someone at level 26 or 27, a decent ways into their division (where accuracy is still being worked on!), need to get a AAA above their skill rating. Okay, a skillboost could manage this. Likewise, someone at the low 40s could just grab a song a dozen levels below their rank.
D3 needs to AAA something in the 50-57 range while being in the 46-54 range. This just exacerbates the issue: in order for the average player to get this AAA, they need to be on the upper end of their division. Anyone before level 50? Git gud to compete. 50-52? Hope you're good at AAAing. 53-54? You're good.
D4 needs 58-65 while being 55-64. Same basic issue, except mid D4 is enough vs. high D3.
D5 needs 66-78 while being 65-76. Same setup as D4.
D6 needs 79-88 while being 77-86. Yep. Low D6 can't participate either.
D7 needs 89+ while being 87+. Yeah.

So what levels can actually do this?
1-27 (Excite Bike), 30-45, 53-54, 60-64, 68-78, 81-86, 90+
D1 is fine, D2 is mostly fine, D3 is screwed, D4-D7 should probably have had the screws loosened a bit.


So yeah. Even though I got my AAA and unlocked Scarhand because of this, the more I think about this round the less well designed it seems.

[PhantomPuppy]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

i'm not complaining, i just figured i'd be able to slide in a couple scores in the team tourney cuz last year, it was run more like fun little events every round like get as many total perfect notes as a team as you can and stuff along those lines, and not so much AAA or die.

[DDRNGGin]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

As far as the round itself....I honestly should have thought it out a bit more cautiously (mainly in the difficulty ranges of the divisions). I will try my best to adjust the ranges slightly to make it easier (and a possibility of changing the objective from AAA to under 30 Raw Goods). The goal of the round is to discuss with your teammates song(s) that are strong candidates for acquiring a small number of goods. Also, keep in mind that this is the first tournament I have ever hosted, so if anyone does have suggestions on how to make this tournament better in future rounds, then I encourage you to let me or Deadlyx39 know, okay?

EDIT: Not sure if any better, but here are the new proposed difficulty ranges:

D1: 1-22
D2: 23-45 (D2 players are recommended to start around difficulty 25 for the range)
D3: 45-55 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 48)
D4: 56-65 (Recommend to go at least difficulty 58)
D5: 66-74
D6: 75-85
D7: 87+

[Felyx]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

That helps a bit. While I get what you were going for, perhaps SDG would have been a better call. Hell I'd have a better chance of SDGing an 81 than AAAing a 56-65. Might just be me though.

[DDRNGGin]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Alright, by the way, Round 1's objective(s) have now changed. Instead of attempting to play for the AAA in this round, it is about trying to keep your team's total Raw Goods under 55! Good luck!

[Jpshadsy]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

I love this song, it is just so happy!

[portalbob340]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Alright, by the way, Round 1's objective(s) have now changed. Instead of attempting to play for the AAA in this round, it is about trying to keep your team's total Raw Goods under 55! Good luck!

Does it matter how far under 55 the total is, or is it just a binary objective, with more points going to teams that get it first?

[juckter1]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Fixed my blackflag on this, cool

[TheToaphster]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

I'll put this run in for Team Mostly Downscroll (D6)

I should have a AAA on a 79 by now, but this'll work

[PhantomPuppy]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Does it matter how far under 55 the total is, or is it just a binary objective, with more points going to teams that get it first?

Yeah usually there's a baseline goal, but people that are closer to 0 get more points.

[grizz13114]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

I have no idea how we are going to pull off getting a full team in two weeks seeing as we need a D1, D5, and D7

[TheToaphster]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

Alright, 3 blackflags and a couple missflags later...

[kacper_w]

Re: 2nd Post-Official Team Tournament Extravaganza (Hosted by DDRNGGin and Deadlyx39)

I would like to restate, I can do both D4 and D5 if that slot is open in any group, i assume my reply in the past was ignored