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  • inDheart
    Picker @ JAX2
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2011
    • 505

    #871
    Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

    if shado is to be believed that he aggros as both/all alignments, i'm ok pushing him to scum sided now. i'm easily swayed by effort but he says it's not alignment indicative, and after his wolf game i'd buy that. he hasn't done much else to get in my good graces.

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    • Gradiant
      FFR's Resident Trashpanda
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2012
      • 1100

      #872
      Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

      I didn't really care much when it happened but when the 'omg misquoting' argument came up regarding shado x freezin, the apparent missing context was just my arguments towards freezin but shado posting about them rather than quoting what I said. So a lot of the shado x freezin argument wasn't even new material. Was kinda just a bunch of rehashed shit with insulting, and then unvoting for no reason and immediately backing off

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      • Gradiant
        FFR's Resident Trashpanda
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2012
        • 1100

        #873
        Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

        I also have not been liking how mellon's been posting, and the interactions between her and both shado and freezin have come across as awkward

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6207

          #874
          Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

          PAGE 27

          Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
          What's funniest is that I'm sitting here waiting for inDheart to finish ISOing me in an effort to dig up dirt. The reason that's funny is that his intention spells it all out. He realized he "has to put in the work" to dig up dirt on me, so he's ISOing with that intention from the get-go. As town, ISOing posts in order to prove the conclusion you've already reached should never happen. You ISO to find more information, then make up your mind based on the information. It's even funnier because when I ISOd his posts, I went in thinking he was town, and ended up changing my read to wolf based on what I read. Doesn't that kind of tell it all, already?

          Oooh, I can't wait!

          HEE HEE HEEEE
          Or, bucko, he could just be making sure he's reading you right and make a case while your sitting on your ass sprouting boast-y shit to take that dirty grin off your wolfy muzzle, bitch.

          Originally posted by Charu
          I would be careful if I were you, bucko. I may not have read in depth like you have in his posts, but boasting about finding a wolf, when there's really nothing to even use hard evidence on, is pretty damning for yourself.

          I would know, when I'm wolfing, I usually tend to be super hyper aggressive when I find something I can use to drill my opponents.

          ...Or I just bus, hee hee hee.
          My own quote here is relevant, bucko. You're doing EXACTLY what I expect an aggro wolf to do. Boasting and proclaiming you found an easy peasy wolf.

          But you're just a smelly wolfy fook yourself, aren'tcha, hee hee hee. How tragic.

          Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
          I wasn't even slightly sure from his posts, I just thought it was a scumtell that he wasn't posting nearly as independently as he normally does. It's his reaction right now that's affirming it for me. Like, who the fuck ISOs someone's posts in an effort to dig up dirt as a response to being read scum? That's not something town does. His whole reaction just threw me the fuck off, but even then I paused and reconsidered before voting.

          Besides, if I was wolf and wanted to be super hyper aggressive, the time for that would've been when I quoted that post progression of FreezinIce.
          But he was, my dear friend. I know there's no way at the moment you can show me where he's sheeping because you're working in that gosh darn place with the food. But I'm sure you'll be hard pressed to find something that's even passable as "sheeping" because I sure as hell saw none of that shit from inDheart.

          Originally posted by roundbox
          this game just feels like incredible white noise
          As tomorrow is Friday and I'm done with a shitload of work, I will be able to make SICK FUCKIN READS OF PEOPLE

          Keep in mind folks that one of your town reads is probably the SERIAL KILLER

          also I hosted mafia for my students today, that was pretty fun
          I know he's been posting as of late, did he ever get to this juicy thing recently and not during this page? Because...

          Originally posted by roundbox
          nah, more @Gradiant and @DaBackpack
          Gradiant is definitely not scum sided this game from what I've seen of the tone of his posts.
          If I recall VERY RECENTLY he just labeled Backpack as town and he just said right here that Gradiant is town, so where's this "SK" read?




          inDheart - Null?
          Hakulyte - Town Lean x4
          R.E. Aryxi/_Zenith_ - Town Lean x2
          Shadowolfe - 90% Sure Wolf
          danceflashrevo - Town Lean x2.5
          Gradiant - STRONG Town Lean
          FreezinIce - 90% Sure Wolf
          DaBackpack - Wolf Lean
          Precarious - STRONG Town Lean
          roundbox - Wolf Lean x2
          botchi246 - Null
          XelNya - WEAK Town Lean
          juckter1 - Town Lean x2
          mellonxcollie - WEAK Town Lean


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • Gradiant
            FFR's Resident Trashpanda
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2012
            • 1100

            #875
            Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

            Originally posted by roundbox
            nah, more @Gradiant and @DaBackpack
            Gradiant is definitely not scum sided this game from what I've seen of the tone of his posts.
            Reminded of this again because of Charu's posts, but was something in here a typo? From what it looked like, you posted me and dbp as the sk, but then you said I definately wasn't scum sided?

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            • inDheart
              Picker @ JAX2
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2011
              • 505

              #876
              Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

              very likely will be less active from now on, also at a party

              i know i haven't made a vote but it will be in my mind to get back here. maybe it's just me being impulsive right now but if i voted right this second, it would be to press juckter to do sth before eod

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              • Gradiant
                FFR's Resident Trashpanda
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 1100

                #877
                Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                Originally posted by inDheart
                very likely will be less active from now on, also at a party

                i know i haven't made a vote but it will be in my mind to get back here. maybe it's just me being impulsive right now but if i voted right this second, it would be to press juckter to do sth before eod
                As long as you end up doing something. You've got to have at least one scum read you could vote on at this point

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                • roundbox
                  fhqwhgads
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2085

                  #878
                  Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by Gradiant
                  Reminded of this again because of Charu's posts, but was something in here a typo? From what it looked like, you posted me and dbp as the sk, but then you said I definately wasn't scum sided?
                  scum = mafia
                  I'm just paranoid of one of my town reads being the SK since they can hunt wolves along with the rest of town
                  yeah, this makes me come off as more WOLFY by definition but I'm definitely not lynching these two
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                  • Charu
                    Snivy! Dohoho!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6207

                    #879
                    Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                    PAGE 28

                    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                    Wait, was the point of this massive post, 90 minute ISO, and energy expended, all simply to tell me, "you look like a fool"? Because I see no mention of how any of this makes me look scummy..

                    Wow, talk about a wasted effort.
                    Sigh...

                    The point of his post spiel was showcasing that you DIDN'T have original thoughts. You never pushed with your own ideas, just the ideas from others.

                    For someone that made a huge ass post detailing how stupid it was for town to lynch you last game (and be reasonable about it), you're certainly not showing that same level of care right now with the way you're acting towards your "supposeded" easy bake wolf catch.

                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    To be fair, you havnt exactly made an airtight case for him being scum with your vote either. You just perforated him with word bullets.

                    I know that votes are versatile tools that can be used for all sorts of things so this usually wouldnt matter at all in my mind, but i felt the need to point out the double standard.
                    ...And this is the part that my mind is exploding on.

                    Two strong wolf leans right here, and one of them is saying "you got bad info" to the other. Would two wolves do this publically? Are they attempting to create the sexy "they can't be the same team" thing so that one of them will come out as supposedly "towny" at the end?

                    But with the roles in this game, that's leaving a lot of that to chance, hmm...

                    Am I completely wrong with on these 90% wolf reads? If anything... I could actually pardon Freez actually... and go for Shadow since he's clearly been changing stances and it shows in the posts. All Freez is guilty of is yelling at Gradiant over and over and over while making sudden 180 switch in tones.

                    ...

                    ...

                    . . .

                    Fuck

                    And look at that, shadow starts going ham on inDheart.. and the funny thing about this big post full of boasty shit is that he displays ignorance to what inDheart was trying to tell him with his posts. And he brushes it off like it's inDheart ATTACKING him and not taking in what he's actually saying with his post links to quotes.


                    inDheart - Town Lean
                    Hakulyte - Town Lean x4
                    R.E. Aryxi/_Zenith_ - Town Lean x2
                    Shadowolfe - 90% Sure Wolf
                    danceflashrevo - Town Lean x2.5
                    Gradiant - STRONG Town Lean
                    FreezinIce - Wolf Lean x5 ??????
                    DaBackpack - Wolf Lean
                    Precarious - STRONG Town Lean
                    roundbox - Wolf Lean x2
                    botchi246 - Null
                    XelNya - WEAK Town Lean
                    juckter1 - Town Lean x2
                    mellonxcollie - WEAK Town Lean


                    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                    Had a very shiny nose
                    And if you ever saw it
                    You could even say it glows

                    All of the other Snivies
                    Used to laugh and call him names
                    They never let poor Charu
                    Join in any Snivy games

                    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                    • roundbox
                      fhqwhgads
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2085

                      #880
                      Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                      reading shadowolfe, I feel actually kinda sketchy about him

                      I'm only about halfway into the thread for his posts but he sounds more like a moderator. He's having conversations and interactions with people, but it doesn't look like he's really trying to dig into anyone's case and is instead just reacting in context.

                      oh a reads post

                      my posts are kinda w/e yet he rates me higher than botchi
                      botchi is so green right now dude
                      I can kinda see where you're coming across with your read in indheart
                      no clue about haku but you seem pretty confident and willing to defend him

                      all of his snipping back and forth with indheart is just ZZZZZZZZZZ inducing
                      it seems indheart is more emotionally invested in it but I do kinda see his digging into shado being fruitless is pretty odd considering he did it as a request for haku

                      Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                      I'm liking botchi more after coming in and posting, but that's just off memory right now because nothing seemed suspicious to me there. Not much actual contribution still, but he's trolling in a genuine manner, and that seems like normal botchi to me.
                      lol
                      how were his first posts any different in tone??


                      I'm getting a wolf lean from shado I think guys
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #881
                        Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                        Originally posted by roundbox
                        I'm getting a wolf lean from shado I think guys
                        Something we agree on!!!


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • Charu
                          Snivy! Dohoho!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 6207

                          #882
                          Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                          Alright, I think I'mm-a just wing it here, screw trying to do that.

                          I noticed juckter mentioned that he thinks inDheart and shadow are TvT. I'm definitely not getting that vibe at all.

                          I can see it now with Freez vs Gradiant though. It could've just been a case of "hot air".


                          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                          Had a very shiny nose
                          And if you ever saw it
                          You could even say it glows

                          All of the other Snivies
                          Used to laugh and call him names
                          They never let poor Charu
                          Join in any Snivy games

                          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                          Originally posted by Vendetta21
                          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                          • danceflashrevo
                            scumfan is scared of aa
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 488

                            #883
                            Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                            inDheart - First few posts are shitposting and role theory. That's to be expected. Then
                            Originally posted by heart #48
                            not focusing on counterclaims because there's no mechanical way to verify them by this point, plus none have actually cropped up; i don't think a real PR would tell us otherwise right away for fear of being mistaken
                            This leads me to believe that he is town because he follows the mentality of "this is just gonna waste time, let's focus on something else". He then has an interesting read on haku
                            Originally posted by heart #410
                            i get inklings of a "haku defenseive" vibe but i noticed something different about his start the game here vs. turbo 5

                            in turbo 5, he started the game as haku-centric, but then felt freer to post his mind and poke at people

                            in this game, he started as more openly inquisitive, then switched to a focus on the self (cf. his vote on xel)

                            something feels different
                            . And really, this is accurate. He switches to super self conscious pretty early in the phase and then started feeling free. I'll show how in my haku analysis but I like this post and the next one.
                            Originally posted by heart #500
                            oh gee, people become conscious of their behavior patterns when observed, who'd've thought
                            .

                            What I really like about this post is that a) it's funny, i lol'd, and b) it was a little jab at gradiant for adding an attempted accusation at freezin. And then after that, the inDheart/wolfe thing starts. I think that he had a solid point out.
                            Originally posted by heart #505
                            taking a look at shado anyway; my hot take is he's done a lot of following rather than leading, like he's willing to push along other battles but not to be part of his own so much. for me tht behavior trends more sociopathic, but what's throwing me off is i don't have a good bead on whether this is usually what he does in longer games.
                            And then wolfe responds very aggressively and throwing mud (at least that's how it felt).
                            Originally posted by wolfe #507
                            LMAO
                            That actually sounds familiar, inDheart. Almost like you took my exact argument against you and tried to flip it. Want an example of me starting a battle? My read on you.

                            Not even gonna touch the sociopathic part or whether this is usually what I do, because your premise is totally flawed. Get wrecked, son.
                            Now, I find myself siding with heart here because wolfes entry tone is very snarky, however heart replies with a lot of snarkiness which made it feel like a mudslinging fest. This and the other ad hominem interaction are very hard to read for me, because I find it hard to actually get what's important. But reading into it, I feel like heart does a really good job making a case on wolfe, it seems very logical to me (post 544, it's long so I don't wanna post it to fluff up my post lul). I feel like his coming onto wolfe is independent of freezin getting attacked, which is really good imo. It's not like he's specifically defending someone. Town.

                            guys this is really hard to do football is really interesting to watch and this is a lot of analysis i've never done this before asdf

                            Why are you here?

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                            • danceflashrevo
                              scumfan is scared of aa
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 488

                              #884
                              Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                              botchi246 - To preface this, AJ's content has definitely been lacking in... quantity but I genuinely think that he's town. His first post in the game isn't even a shit post, he posts a pretty good conclusion from the gradiant freezin interaction.
                              Originally posted by Aj #342
                              well i have finally finished reading all this stuff.
                              first of all, screw you charu for starting the game off with serious stuff. also, dont lynch charu

                              the more i read freezinice and gradiants exchanges, the more i think they are town vs. town. it feels to me that they both got excited early and then now are harboring "early-game paranoia" or EGP (<--lol) if you will.
                              First off, this doesn't just show townie mindset and tone. Him saying it's v/v is very original, and it is VERY easy to just jump into "gradiant is a wolf because D:<" "freezin is a wolf because >:Ɑ" but he doesn't. Secondly, it says "the more i read" which means he's keeping up with the game, and is actively paying attention. I'd claim his low content is due to his inexperience so far (I tend to be very sympathetic towards that) and it'd make since to me. He still feels genuine. This is applicable to his other content posts as well. The only thing that makes me a little paranoid is his recent inactivity (last post was yesterday 3:42pm server) and you might be able to link that to people town reading him, but I think he should be off the table unless he self destructs EoD.

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                              • roundbox
                                fhqwhgads
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 2085

                                #885
                                Re: TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

                                I'm just gonna sit on dfr for now, maybe shado
                                taking a break and the only people I have left to read are freezin and haku

                                gradiant's tone is strikingly different from his wolf performance and I have no reason to look into charu other than see that hey, he's the bulletproof bodyguard
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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