11th Official Tournament - Round 8

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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #1516
    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

    Anyone who is complaining about the D5 file technically: you're wrong. It's very accurately stepped, in fact, that's precisely the problem, it is TOO accurately stepped.

    Anyone who is complaining about the D5 file's playability: lol yeah its pretty troll I don't disagree in the slightest. I usually pretty much only care about playability and smooth patterns so as a simfile artist sometimes it can be fun to let go (this attitude also leads to M.A.M.A., Thunder Light, etc.)

    Anyone who is complaining about the D5 file being used in the tournament: Well, I do think the file is quite a bit much for D5 R2 and should have been used a little later in the tournament. But I also think it is a fine tournament file. Bursts are patterns too, even if a lot of people are bad at them/don't like them. Cheating weird patterns has always been a thing on FFR, and it's not like D5 should be "protected" from files that might require it
    Last edited by hi19hi19; 07-7-2016, 12:06 PM.


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    • MikeShinoda12345
      *\(^o^)/*
      • Oct 2008
      • 1890

      #1517
      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

      hey speaking of
      hi19 how long are the updates on your Thoughts On My Own Files RT gonna take cause I miss your comments

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #1518
        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

        Originally posted by MikeShinoda12345
        hey speaking of
        hi19 how long are the updates on your Thoughts On My Own Files RT gonna take cause I miss your comments
        Oh yeah I have it almost finished, I was going to put it on my website but it turns out making a website is harder than I thought. Or, rather, it's exactly as hard as I thought.

        Teaching myself HTML/CSS from scratch this summer
        Last edited by hi19hi19; 07-7-2016, 12:07 PM.


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        • ZanmatoFusion
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2016
          • 38

          #1519
          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

          This tournament was meant to be challenging. That's how tournaments work. So what if it's used as a R2 file for D5. It fits fine. Just play, work hard, and advance or don't :/

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          • igotrhythm
            Fractals!
            • Sep 2004
            • 6535

            #1520
            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

            It doesn't matter how bad you are at a file.

            It matters how bad you are compared to everyone else.

            (kind of like how you don't need to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun one of your friends)
            Last edited by igotrhythm; 07-7-2016, 12:21 PM.
            Originally posted by thesunfan
            I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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            • DarkZtar
              (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2007
              • 668

              #1521
              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              Anyone who is complaining about the D5 file being used in the tournament: Well, I do think the file is quite a bit much for D5 R2 and should have been used a little later in the tournament. But I also think it is a fine tournament file. Bursts are patterns too, even if a lot of people are bad at them/don't like them. Cheating weird patterns has always been a thing on FFR, and it's not like D5 should be "protected" from files that might require it
              Will preface this by saying I think divinity garden is a great file. That being said, I actually don't think it makes that great of a tournament file either. When you have a largely smooth difficulty curve broken by very abrupt and awkward burst patterns (to the point where that's pretty much all that determines a person with the tested skill level's score) those patterns just become unduly frustrating to deal with. I felt the same way when D4? (or was it also D5, idr) got Press Start. Press Start is honestly a pretty cool/quirky file to play when you're not really pressured for a score, but in the tournament setting it felt very out of place (esp considering pattern manipulation was like the only way you could get past the 48ths). But yeah I suck at the file (lol 7 goods) so subjectivemanias weee.

              This isn't a knock at Kayla or AJ for the file selection either, just my 2¢

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              • Ghost_Medley
                D6.9 Prime Buttonhitter
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2013
                • 703

                #1522
                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                a lot of my score on the d5 chart was based on forcing jumptrills in certain spots (all of the 1/48 rolls) and training my muscle memory to hit fast sections accurately. it took maybe 200+ tries to get the 6-0-0-1 score so it definitely wasn't the easiest thing so far.

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                • Red Blaster
                  Bridge Burner
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 2040

                  #1523
                  Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                  Originally posted by j-rodd123
                  Wow such an original comment. I'm not allowed to find a chart horrible. Just because you can't direct a better movie or produce a better song doesn't make the song or movie horrible!!!


                  Loser
                  Roasted.
                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  edgelord Linkin Park adolescent angst music
                  Originally posted by choof
                  hey great contribution to the thread cucklord the exit's up in the top right of your screen, it's called "log out"
                  Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                  what's a milky christmas :O

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                  • bmah
                    shots FIRED
                    Profile Moderator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Global Moderator
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 8448

                    #1524
                    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                    Originally posted by DarkZtar
                    I actually don't think it makes that great of a tournament file either.
                    If combo scoring was still a thing, then I may be inclined to agree, but now that breaking your combo won't totally rupture your score, I think this is a fine tournament file. Frustration is abound, but that is part of the journey in acquiring your accomplishments, isn't it?

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                    • igotrhythm
                      Fractals!
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 6535

                      #1525
                      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                      Originally posted by Ghost_Medley
                      a lot of my score on the d5 chart was based on forcing jumptrills in certain spots (all of the 1/48 rolls) and training my muscle memory to hit fast sections accurately. it took maybe 200+ tries to get the 6-0-0-1 score so it definitely wasn't the easiest thing so far.
                      pretty much the only 48th section you can't jumptrill is the staircase
                      Originally posted by thesunfan
                      I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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                      • Ghost_Medley
                        D6.9 Prime Buttonhitter
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 703

                        #1526
                        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                        Originally posted by igotrhythm
                        pretty much the only 48th section you can't jumptrill is the staircase
                        i'm like 90% sure i jumptrilled that in my 6-0-0-1 run

                        edit: i also improved my score a slight bit so now i'm not 5 points ahead of second place

                        Last edited by Ghost_Medley; 07-7-2016, 03:16 PM.

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                        • HeZe
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 556

                          #1527
                          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                          What staircase are you talking about? I didn't notice any.

                          Even though that D5 song is a minefield, it's still a great song and IMO a good choice for a tourney file. Even though it's frustrating to fuck up the bursts pretty consistently, god how it is satisfying to have that one good run which you need. What I hated the most is this pattern right here

                          It's actually not that bad because it comes so soon after the beginning (but it also appears again near the ending so UUHUHUH)

                          Originally posted by ilikexd
                          Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.

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                          • shenjoku
                            Wubalubadubdub
                            • May 2005
                            • 1697

                            #1528
                            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                            Even though I suck at it, I still like your file corn man <3
                            boop

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                            • remedy1502
                              remederpin
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 4884

                              #1529
                              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                              I personally love divinity garden, short colourful bursts are exciting

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                              • Untimely Friction
                                D6 Challeneged
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1267

                                #1530
                                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 2

                                Due to this last spurt of lag this score did not record, but i was persistent and got the replay eventually. It's not enough to hit the cutoff and I concede that but I'd like the record to state I did in fact try! Got close but life > gaem so gg wp d6, I'll be ghosting and watching.

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