11th Official Tournament - Round 8

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  • _Zenith_
    Accuracy Player
    • Mar 2011
    • 4629

    #1081
    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

    Division 1: 21 / 34 (61.76%)
    Division 2: 41 / 52 (78.85%)
    Division 3: 44 / 51 (86.27%)
    Division 4: 44 / 50 (88%)
    Division 5: 62 / 82 (75.61%)
    Division 6: 44 / 51 (86.27%)
    Division 7: 37 / 41 (90.24%)

    Seeing these numbers, it is mindblowing that D1 is the smallest division; it truly depicts that the populace on FFR is rather skilled (majority of active players are between D3-D5) and people who complain about the difficulty of this tournament should be reminded of this fact: people are much better than the previous years, alarmingly fast too.





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    • devonin
      Very Grave Indeed
      Event Staff
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2004
      • 10120

      #1082
      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

      I think it's less that the average person is better, and more that only people who are good at the game are still actually playing it.

      If you look at "newer" easy difficulty songs, they have as few as 2,000 people with scores logged, versus 600,000 for the very old easy songs.

      The average FFR player is better every year, because fewer and fewer below average players are staying.

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      • storn42
        RIP Storn D0-D0
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jun 2012
        • 3473

        #1083
        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

        Originally posted by devonin
        I think it's less that the average person is better, and more that only people who are good at the game are still actually playing it.

        If you look at "newer" easy difficulty songs, they have as few as 2,000 people with scores logged, versus 600,000 for the very old easy songs.

        The average FFR player is better every year, because fewer and fewer below average players are staying.
        I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?


        Originally posted by Xiz
        "I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
        Originally posted by the sun fan
        I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe


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        • blanky!
          Banned
          • Jan 2015
          • 164

          #1084
          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

          Originally posted by storn42
          I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
          Not very long, because the average player doesn't even get past a few arrows.

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          • devonin
            Very Grave Indeed
            Event Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2004
            • 10120

            #1085
            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

            Originally posted by storn42
            I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
            Well the average keeps moving up also. but yes, I think it's fair to say that "Getting better" is a motivator to stay. People who either don't really feel they are getting better, or who feel like there aren't enough "Easy" songs for them to play are the ones likely to leave.

            Well that and the rhythm game market is a LOT more saturated now than it ever was, and probably a lot of people who might have played/stayed here, who like rhythm games are playing them on their phone etc.

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            • devonin
              Very Grave Indeed
              Event Staff
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2004
              • 10120

              #1086
              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

              I'd be really curious to see what percentage of the 1.9 million users we have actually logged a score on an FFR song in the last say, six months. I would guess no more than 5000.

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              • _Zenith_
                Accuracy Player
                • Mar 2011
                • 4629

                #1087
                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                Originally posted by devonin
                I'd be really curious to see what percentage of the 1.9 million users we have actually logged a score on an FFR song in the last say, six months. I would guess no more than 5000.
                I'd give you half that

                Without the OT, daily users online varies within 250-400 players, though who knows if they play or just view forums, etc.

                I would have to assume that a small fraction of the 1.9 mil is bot accounts, especially where the last few months they have spawned rapidly





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                • devonin
                  Very Grave Indeed
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #1088
                  Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                  I'd say between bots, and permabanned but not deleted accounts, it's more than a small percentage.

                  There's also a good possibility that the number up in the top right just increments whenever an account is created and isn't coded to also decrement if an account is deleted/removed/permabanned.
                  Last edited by devonin; 06-27-2016, 01:52 PM.

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                  • Kawaii025
                    Fake D4
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1404

                    #1089
                    Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                    Originally posted by EtienneSM
                    It begins

                    Flag a file and we'll be more shocked.
                    My List of FFR Tournaments
                    Pre-10/16/16
                    Highest AAA: Connect (HOUSE SOUL REMIX) & Case Closed (54)
                    Highest Blackflag: Survive (60)
                    Highest FC: Challenge the final mission! (68)
                    Highest SDG: The Fusion (63)
                    Otaku Speedvibe [Heavy] unlocked 03/04/15 - On The Origin of Species (Evolution) (50)

                    Highest AAA:Case Closed (58)
                    Highest Blackflag: Survive (58)
                    Highest Booflag: Fill Me Up With Snacky Happiness & Suit Up (55)
                    Highest FC: Challenge the final mission! (72)
                    Highest SDG: The Fusion (67)

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                    • Deidara837
                      For a New Beginning
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1751

                      #1090
                      Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                      Originally posted by storn42
                      I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
                      Maybe 6 months

                      _9th OT: D2 - 13th Place
                      10th OT: D5 - 45th Place
                      11th OT: D6 - 12th Place

                      EMG Rivalry | EMG Spreadsheet

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                      • PhantomPuppy
                        Washed and Irrelevant D7
                        • May 2012
                        • 1808

                        #1091
                        Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                        Originally posted by storn42
                        I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
                        "above" average can mean a lot of things, but im going to assume you mean around D3. took me about a year to go from D1 to D2 (technically), then 2 weeks to go from D2 to D3. really depends on how much time and effort you put into it.

                        10th OT (D3): 13th
                        11th OT (D6): 11th
                        12th OT (D6): 6th
                        13th OT (D7): 31st
                        14th OT (D7): 25th
                        15th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL
                        16th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL


                        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                        you know what they say

                        under all the rust is really shiny...……… metal

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                        • Frank Munoz
                          Muein
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2047

                          #1092
                          Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                          Originally posted by igotrhythm
                          New idea for the 12th official tournament: NO eliminations. Then people won't bitch and moan because they suck at the round 1 file...there's time to catch up and get a file you're better at.

                          And maybe use victory points (scoring based on how many people whose scores you beat in a round) instead of cumulative raw score, a la Dossar's Brutality tournaments.
                          ayyyyy
                          now you talkin' my friend who haveth a rhythm
                          Unknown and Unofficial
                          may the good arrow guide you

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                          • Poison-
                            Nope
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3772

                            #1093
                            Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                            I went from complete beginner to AAAing FMO's in 6 months. I didn't even know how to "train" properly. I just screwed around for like 2 hours a day

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                            • Elmerz
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 606

                              #1094
                              Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                              Completely off topic but does anyone know if there's a smooth running standalone flash player working on windows 10 yet? I want to upgrade but not if it wrecks my standing in the official.

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                              • PhantomPuppy
                                Washed and Irrelevant D7
                                • May 2012
                                • 1808

                                #1095
                                Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

                                Originally posted by Elmerz
                                Completely off topic but does anyone know if there's a smooth running standalone flash player working on windows 10 yet? I want to upgrade but not if it wrecks my standing in the official.
                                tbh ive tried every standalone FP from 9-21 and none of them really worked for me on windows 10. simple view seemed to be much more stable than standalone.

                                10th OT (D3): 13th
                                11th OT (D6): 11th
                                12th OT (D6): 6th
                                13th OT (D7): 31st
                                14th OT (D7): 25th
                                15th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL
                                16th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL


                                Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                                you know what they say

                                under all the rust is really shiny...……… metal

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