TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

Storn is probably town

ew

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

I think Charu is probably right that probably at least 2 wolves are in the people being very quiet right now, but I would not include Red in that list aorn

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

also I can't remember if my vote is still on him but tokzic for emphasis, he's made like 3 posts this game, the only relevant one of which was to bandwagon onto me further while giving something like "seems like that one game where i was partners with him"

vote feels out of place because you were yelling at storn and Gradiant at the time, the vote is inbetween posts where you were talking about them

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

this is pretty much true for anyone that flips town on the first day phase, but whatever

I actually agree with this criticism of my post a lot

What i don't agree with is your current posting method of spamming and just gathering random shit to react to with no obervable goal or actual method with some sort of parameter. Can you like, condense your posts bro?

[thesunfan]

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I actually agree with this criticism of my post a lot

What i don't agree with is your current posting method of spamming and just gathering random shit to react to with no obervable goal or actual method with some sort of parameter. Can you like, condense your posts bro?

I'll just reread and make a reads list at the end unless there's things that I really think are worth commenting on

sry for spammerino

[XelNya]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

No sunfan spam away buddy

don't let this bitch tell you how to be you

LET THE SPAM FLO SO BRO

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

VOTE COUNT
AragakiAyase: 4 - Gradiant, storn42, Tokzic, botchi246
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Tokzic: 3 - thesunfan, AragakiAyase, Charu
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Charu: 1 - gold stinger
Red Blaster: 1 - XelNya
XelNya: 1 - Red Blaster
roundbox: 1 - cedolad
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Yet to vote: roundbox, blindreper1179

It takes 7 to insta.

Phase ends in 5 minutes.

quoting because this is a pretty important votecount to look at

I think, and this is just generally how things play out in games, that two wolves are in the lead wagons, and the third is likely to be outside of that

[AragakiAyase]

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I was a large part of why Tokzic died over you, so it doesn't make much sense for me to be a wolf from your perspective, I think

tinfoil but I agree, I think you're probably town at this point I'm just upset I'm being misread

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

oh the mindmeld

its not really a mindmeld if its something (sort of? I don't know if this actually qualifies as) mechanical

[AragakiAyase]

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I thought I did but I'll try again

it because of how you pushed back on him

I will grant you that Tokzic was playing wolfy. I don't think anyone in their right mind regrets lynching him

That being said, you were only tunneled in on him. The difference between misguided town and a wolf is pretty hard to stop on d0, so having so many "misguided town" voting for you is something that rarely happens. If you're town, and you're the top poster, I don't think wolves are going to hang back from pushing you, especially because no one was really hard defending you until very close to EOD.

You pushing back on Tokzic and not on your other voters was weird in my mind.

The way you pushed back on, while you did vote for him early in the phase as a prod, was weak at first, and it never really got stronger. You were pushing him back because you couldn't believe he was pushing you, which, again, is reactive, not proactive, and is a usually a sign of a wolf instead of a town.

the reason my push on tokzic didn't get stronger is because he didn't give me anything to work with so I kept saying we should lynch him for the reasons I kept listing. He straight up posted nothing until he popped in, scumread me weakly, vanished again, then came back in to vote me. How am I supposed to strengthen my push on him except by insisting we should lynch him? I had already fully covered my case on him. He had what seemed to be a promising entrance, but his behavior didn't line up. Then when he came in and pushed weakly on me I built that into my case because that felt scummy. And then when he came in again and tried to bandwagon me and just casually vote me, I pushed back even harder. He never pushed on anyone else and never said anything else, how am I supposed to strengthen my push? doesn't make sense

like I said, I was townreading my other voters. Is it so strange to consider that maybe a bunch of town were voting for me (maybe a wolf in storn) and the wolves just hang back? If too many people got onto me too quickly it might sketch out actual townspeople who could maybe more easily see the push is on a town fueled by so many people that there have to be wolves. With just a few, namely gradiant (weak pushes from tokzic/storn/botchi) it seems more plausible that I'm a wolf from other people's perspectives.

[AragakiAyase]

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its not really a mindmeld if its something (sort of? I don't know if this actually qualifies as) mechanical

does it? My reaction at the time was basically yours so I think that's a mindmeld

[AragakiAyase]

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I don't at all see how losing PRs means that I lose the ability to evaluate the game objectively.

because emotions are a thing, aren't they? I didn't say you lose the ability to evaluate objectively but it could very well be lessened

[thesunfan]

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aa
Thank you for showing me that you don't in fact have a good reason to lynch cedo

this post is essentially saying "How dare you not be reading the game the way I am"

I've never seen you make a vote based on that reasoning before

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

hmmm its almost like cedo didn't mean what he said, AA

didn't interpret it that way, if you know cedo better than I do then hooray, I thought he was dead serious about lynching those 3

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

because emotions are a thing, aren't they? I didn't say you lose the ability to evaluate objectively but it could very well be lessened

Do you see me making posts being upset that Tokzic was a dipshit or that DBP was the cop?

Thems the breaks. I take them as they come. Maybe its just because I have more experience (I hate saying this it makes me feel like I'm full of myself), but PRs dying like this tends not to upset me, so I don't think that this is relevant