TWG 150: Undertale

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  • TWG Papyrus
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2016
    • 3

    #2716
    Re: TWG 150: Undertale

    alright well, since the humans didn't block me there are four different blocks that could have happened barring some weird quirk about roleblocking the nightkill i don't know about (@xiz?):
    1. nappy plane blocks alphys- at best they waste a phase learning that there's a medic, huge waste of time
    2. nappy plane blocks dummy- this is a really poor decision and since plane is the most likely roleblocker in this scenario i'm not sure how she decides that my general UTR-ness early on combined with very explicitly noting that i caught her softclaim is less of a medic tell than, idk, dummy latching on to her saying "blue check"? if anything dummy sticking very strictly to his usual town game would make her think he's bomb and him claiming vanilla at the start of this phase made her feel safe to follow through on the soft and say "btw i'm bomb"
    3. mad nappy blocks alphys- greg never lets this happen lol
    4. mad nappy blocks plane- at least this one would be built on solid reasoning as far as i can tell. sure i was UTR but plane posted an actual softclaim whereas i merely acknowledged one. there's a lot of WIFOMery that could go on in this situation that i think greg is more susceptible to, but ultimately he'd have to decide that me acting "normal" implies that i'm most likely vanilla. also greg totally expected RB to pull out a fakeclaim here and is disappoint and likely buttfrustrated

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    • TWG Tsunderplane
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2016
      • 2

      #2717
      Re: TWG 150: Undertale

      I absolutely believe that greg is one of the final humans, everything is adding up for it to be true

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      • TWG Napstablook
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2016
        • 2

        #2718
        Re: TWG 150: Undertale

        Originally posted by TWG Papyrus
        also greg totally expected RB to pull out a fakeclaim here and is disappoint and likely buttfrustrated
        I don't even know how to address this, but just know I got a good chuckle.

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        • TWG Tsunderplane
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2016
          • 2

          #2719
          Re: TWG 150: Undertale

          mad nappy blocks me feels most reasonable especially since I cannot fathom a reason to block you over me with how overt my softclaim was

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          • TWG Tsunderplane
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2016
            • 2

            #2720
            Re: TWG 150: Undertale

            especially with greg as the blocker since he would of course follow it up with "idk guys I don't see how she was softclaiming at all"

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            • TWG Napstablook
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2016
              • 2

              #2721
              Re: TWG 150: Undertale

              I literally just quoted that post lol

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              • TWG Napstablook
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2016
                • 2

                #2722
                Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
                I didn't see it from Tsunder but I see what he's said about Napsta
                For reference

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                • TWG Tsunderplane
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 2

                  #2723
                  Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                  my point exactly, it's precisely the follow-up post I'd expect from greg if he's the roleblocker

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                  • TWG Mad Dummy
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 3

                    #2724
                    Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                    Originally posted by TWG Papyrus
                    3. mad nappy blocks alphys- greg never lets this happen lol
                    I've medic-tested before, and I don't consider it to be a bad play in this scenario because you don't give town an extra lynch and the cop gains no info.

                    I mean its better to medic test earlier in the game rather than later, but this isn't really a waste of time imo

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                    • TWG Mad Dummy
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 3

                      #2725
                      Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                      Originally posted by TWG Tsunderplane
                      especially with greg as the blocker since he would of course follow it up with "idk guys I don't see how she was softclaiming at all"
                      fwiw, and I'm not using it against you now that I think about it, I didn't see it.

                      I guess I kind of see it now in hindsight, but I certainly did not see it beforehand.

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                      • TWG Napstablook
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 2

                        #2726
                        Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                        Originally posted by TWG Tsunderplane
                        your posts this game have felt town to me this entire time but the possible worlds in which you're a monster are getting rather unlikely
                        Originally posted by TWG Tsunderplane
                        I absolutely believe that greg is one of the final humans, everything is adding up for it to be true
                        "Unlikely" vs "absolutely" is all I'm going to point out here, the decision of where you park your vote is up to you unlike in the..dare I say..Dummytatorship.

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                        • TWG Tsunderplane
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 2

                          #2727
                          Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                          Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
                          fwiw, and I'm not using it against you now that I think about it, I didn't see it.

                          I guess I kind of see it now in hindsight, but I certainly did not see it beforehand.
                          this would hold water if papyrus hadnt explicitly pointed out my softclaim

                          I fully believe you blocked me and are now playing dumb to try to distance yourself

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                          • TWG Mad Dummy
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 3

                            #2728
                            Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                            Originally posted by TWG Tsunderplane
                            this would hold water if papyrus hadnt explicitly pointed out my softclaim

                            I fully believe you blocked me and are now playing dumb to try to distance yourself
                            I mean yeah Undyne pointed out the softclaim, so I saw it, but I wasn't reading it as a softclaim. I was reading what Napsta said as a soft, though

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                            • TWG Mad Dummy
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 3

                              #2729
                              Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                              Tsunder if you're so absolutely sure about me, vote for me, it'll make the game easier from my point of view. I'm not going to try and convince you of my monsterness at this point, I've made up my mind.

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                              • TWG Tsunderplane
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2016
                                • 2

                                #2730
                                Re: TWG 150: Undertale

                                Originally posted by TWG Mad Dummy
                                I mean yeah Undyne pointed out the softclaim, so I saw it, but I wasn't reading it as a softclaim. I was reading what Napsta said as a soft, though
                                neither I nor papyrus thought it was a softclaim and we have no hardclaim from them

                                I remain confident in my conclusion and you are my top target as of right now

                                napsta/dummy is very strongly my top world

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