TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Papyrus]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

You point this out yet keep me at 2 votes?

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

[TWG Napstablook]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

Oh yeah right because otherwise you'd be incriminating yourself

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

not necessarily since itd still need either temmie or me for the final vote

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

I would probably be agreeing with you in that we should be doing at least a little bit of planning if there wasn't a medic claim.

If the roleblocker is lynched, is essentially forces the kill onto Papyrus or myself (the medic dodge), both of which are good, because it has Temmie in final three, which means that the other two living players can make their cases on one another, and Temmie has a 50/50.

If the roleblocker isn't lynched we're a bit worse off, because they can still make the block and the kill in the same night, but the worlds are still pretty readily obvious. Final 5 doesn't have to be a big dramatic planning phase, that's what final 3 is.

I understand that if you are actually town, you have 100% the right to be afraid of voting for Napsta. If you're not going to do it, you're not going to because of that fear and there's nothing I can say that will change your mind. And that's ok, just a bit frustrating from my pov, especially when you're saying "pushing a lynch that can end the game is scummy" because you're not thinking about my pov of "pushing a lynch that is guaranteed to be a human"

thank you for finally understanding my side of the argument

please elaborate on how napsta is guaranteed to be a human

[TWG Napstablook]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

Plane you were one of the only people aside from Alphys who thought I was a monster. Personally I think that played a part in why she died, one less person to stand up for me today makes for a pretty easy lynch against me.

So I have to ask with everything you've seen this game and this phase in particular, where so you stand now?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

thank you for finally understanding my side of the argument

please elaborate on how napsta is guaranteed to be a human

he's only guaranteed to be human from my perspective.

I know that there are 2 humans alive, right? Or there's one in a really unbalanced world in which case we can't lose today, but I don't believe in that world.

So between Papyrus, yourself and Napsta, there are 2 humans.

Papyrus and I are voting for Napsta, you are not voting for Napsta, which narrows down the worlds to the two I posted about already, because Papyrus can be with Napsta, or you can. Its not you and Papyrus, because the game would be over. So Napsta has to be a human from my POV because the only worlds that exist include him.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

there are three possibilities that I can see

pap/dummy - plausible but unlikely now that I think about it because we would have gotten a medic counterclaim from napsta and because it'd be easier to wait for a monster to fuck up

napsta/dummy - my top world right now. dummy vehemently arguing that he hates people who bus like this and pushing so hard for insta has me very concerned that this is reality. the argument that "you don't know my meta but this is never bow I'd play" is pretty much exactly the argument I'd expect to see if a bussing was happening and a new/returning player needed convincing

pap/napsta - extremely unlikely as dummy wouldve immediately counterclaimed medic. the only way this scenario works is if we don't actually have a medic at all, which I'm not sure I believe

are you happy now greg

[TWG Papyrus]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

not necessarily since itd still need either temmie or me for the final vote

you know i'm talking from my perspective, not yours, right? if napsta is a monster fmpov you would've insta'd hours ago

[TWG Mad Dummy]

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I am more happy than unhappy, yes

I'm headed out for a bit, bbl.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

Plane you were one of the only people aside from Alphys who thought I was a monster. Personally I think that played a part in why she died, one less person to stand up for me today makes for a pretty easy lynch against me.

So I have to ask with everything you've seen this game and this phase in particular, where so you stand now?

your posts this game have felt town to me this entire time but the possible worlds in which you're a monster are getting rather unlikely

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

you know i'm talking from my perspective, not yours, right? if napsta is a monster fmpov you would've insta'd hours ago

shit you're right, sorry for misinterpreting

[TWG Tsunderplane]

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if we don't actually have a medic all my reads go out the window because it ruins everything

[TWG Napstablook]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

if we don't actually have a medic all my reads go out the window because it ruins everything

We have literally zero proof that we've got a medic so it's a possibility.
I mean cop, oracle, bomb and medic feels a bit too good to be true in all honesty

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

if we don't have a medic then my top world immediately becomes pap/dummy

the main reason I'm even considering the lack of a medic is that alphys died last night BUT I think the consensus is we expected them to roleblock alphys and kill temmie

so I don't know, fuck this game

[TWG Napstablook]

Re: TWG 150: Undertale

Speaking of which Greg wasn't very critical of the situation in which said claim was made.
iirc he said something to the effect of "if you've got a role you better claim right now" and that was that..no further discussion, no doubt no questioning despite there being multiple reasons to do so. It's all very odd.