TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

can you please link to posts instead of just posting the post number

no I don't like multiquoting because I lose my train of thought more easily.

on page 8 now

[choof]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

no I don't like multiquoting because I lose my train of thought more easily.

on page 8 now

I generally right click the quote button, hit open with tab, and copy+paste the quote into a word document, then write my thoughts

continue on to the next quote, rinse and repeat

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

we need a vote count



the issue with pressuring though, is that



these are people that should be pressured imo, and they don't seem to be paying attention to the game. pressure on ymia only got a re-read of the first handful of pages;


the quote he makes here is from page 8, and he then proceeds to glance over the continuing pages. I'm making that assumption based on his substantial reads that follow



what he's basically saying here is "xelnya did a thing, choof is town, v is doing a thing and is null, oh and choof did another thing"

ymia didn't take the pressure too seriously, this is his most recent post


which, coincidentally, was followed by V posting this


so if we're going to put pressure on someone, we need to determine who the "best" for pressure is

james may will do nothing
pressure on rb will most likely do nothing
xelnya will most likely not take it serious
not sure how I feel about AA aside from that slip that I saw

red blaster is viewing the thread though, so I feel he is the best candidate for pressure atm

red, I would like you to add to these reads


I'm assuming you're doing a re-read of the thread to look for info. at least, I hope you are

I get it. I like your vote and reasoning well enough here, but pressuring someone once and having them brush it off actually doesn't suggest you should now ignore them because they aren't emotionally stimulating enough for you.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

I'll start with people who I don't like as much this game


Xel: I liked his first big post but since then he's dropped off and that makes me concerned. It's reminiscent of his wolf game where he tries to act town for a little bit but quickly fades away. Just saw that plop posted this so lol. Null leaning a bit scum right now

rzr: reasoning for not voting is terrible but not alignment indicative. why is it that here you have yoshl town and roundbox null but then if yoshl is scum roundbox is as well? given that roundbox has barely posted anything at this point it's an odd association. impression management holy shit, why do you care so much about people reading you differently? this could be a town very concerned about looking town but it's more scummy because as town you should be scumhunting instead of focusing on how you look. slight scum lean

zenith: says he doesn't want to speculate about the setup but then wastes a lot of time fighting about wondering why we shouldn't speculate about the setup. I strongly disagree with post 102. You usually get into a fight about someone because you say things that are easily misinterpreted and then when you defend yourself everyone gets more confused. You come out hard and then back off as D0 comes to a close because you supposedly don't want to fight and absorb the lynch instead.

post 151 is shit, it's been beaten to death but not lynching sucks for town. I don't like 186 because it seems like he's trying to deflect suspicion with a useless pre-game piece of info instead of defending himself. his reads list is pretty much all meta/commentary except for the bit on yoshl, so that doesn't help. I can't even make sense of this post. even though I don't like what he's saying it feels like normal zenith play so slight town lean

dbp: a lot of commentary/fluff during the yoshl/zenith fight. "yoshl's really aggressive", "yoshl you're being sloppy". I would have expected some analysis during it instead of this. 6 pages in and all he's done is caution yoshl. it doesn't feel like a T/T interaction to me, I think it would be more likely for dbp to yell at yoshl for playing badly instead of just send him gentle reminders.

page 12 and I still haven't seen anything useful, he talked to rzr about why not voting is detrimental to town but no content. he appeals to choof here and then proceeds to shitpost some more. completely ignored pressure from yoshl about SK on page 20 which is really odd. his reasoning for not denying it is weak. indirectly denies it here but it still seems like a really roundabout way of defending himself. I expected him to come out harder against such a strong accusation. jumped on my bandwagon on page 21, seems like he's trying to direct attention away from him. definitely a strong SK candidate, meta says he's posting too much to be wolf but there's astoundingly little content

James May: where the fuck are you don't vanish like last time I played with you. we should pressure him if he doesn't show up soon

yoshl: yoshl comes out hard immediately, even more so than usual. there's usually a little shitposting before that but almost none here. yes zenith made a dumb post right away but it still seems odd. post 22/23 are lol, seems like he's clearing himself to do dumb shit and then pass it off. it's been noted before already but he makes an overly big deal about invis, I don't think it's relevant to the course of the game. the only reason you want someone off of invis is to know that they're viewing the thread, presumably so you can pressure them. But if the only reason you're going to pressure them is because you saw them viewing the thread then that's weird, it should be a non-issue but yoshl makes it an issue.

it feels like the confrontation with zenith was forced. Zenith said he wanted to converse and yoshl called him out for not having anything ready, but I read zenith's post as an intent to have a certain playstyle, not that he had things he wanted to discuss right away. why did you appeal to V here? is it because of a previous discussion? his aggression seems very different and more forced than his town games which makes me lean him scum. he backs off of zenith for whatever reason to switch to dbp. while I do agree that dbp seems SKish yoshl still reads scummy to me so it could be a wolf going for town points by pinging out someone playing strangely. this post is interesting where he scumreads roundbox. he was townreading round earlier so I'm not sure where the change came from. still pressuring dbp which is fine but he's being inconsistent. oh here's the reason he scumreads round but it's absolute shit. the only interesting implication is that yoshl could be pulling one of his elaborate reaction tests for reads, but inconsistency isn't something I've seen during them so I'm not sure. strongest scumread for now, I'm curious what he thinks of this

RB: slank cover early on, mindmeld here but it's pretty shallow stuff. big reads post here. I disagree with his analysis of yoshl/zenith alignment. it's true that they tend to fight regardless of alignment but their approaches to the fight are more telling. I scumread yoshl because his approach feels unusual in that it seems more forced, while zenith is null/town because he's business as usual. the rest of his post is good though, slight town lean.

ymia: drops slank and what I'll assume is a shitvote on rzr immediately. goes for easy town points on an issue that's done with already, seems like he's trying too hard for it. the rest of his drunk posts are incoherent. he tells v to elaborate but it seems out of place because I don't see anything about v saying he could elaborate like ymia seems to think he did. I just don't see anything good from him so far, null leaning scum.


also look I linked some posts, happy choof?

also wow I don't like a lot of people this game

analysis on people I feel better about coming up next

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

I like it

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

you can't pressure someone who's not present though

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

you brought up impression management with rzr, and I think Zenith did it as well

by asking V to roast him

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

well, I'm not sure I'd call it impression management or appealing

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

not sure if*

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

you brought up impression management with rzr, and I think Zenith did it as well

by asking V to roast him

yes, I noticed that. I dislike impression management in general but zenith often brings in random appeals to people so I didn't think as much of it. What are your thoughts on my read on you and your lack of content?

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

well, I'm not sure I'd call it impression management or appealing

oh nice mindmeld

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

you can't pressure someone who's not present though

You can

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

you can't pressure someone who's not present though

look what they did to me

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

Even if it sounds a little paranoid I really don't like the number of people who seem like they are tacitly agreeing with me something feels wrong here

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

dbp: a lot of commentary/fluff during the yoshl/zenith fight. "yoshl's really aggressive", "yoshl you're being sloppy". I would have expected some analysis during it instead of this. 6 pages in and all he's done is caution yoshl. it doesn't feel like a T/T interaction to me, I think it would be more likely for dbp to yell at yoshl for playing badly instead of just send him gentle reminders.

page 12 and I still haven't seen anything useful, he talked to rzr about why not voting is detrimental to town but no content. he appeals to choof here and then proceeds to shitpost some more. completely ignored pressure from yoshl about SK on page 20 which is really odd. his reasoning for not denying it is weak. indirectly denies it here but it still seems like a really roundabout way of defending himself. I expected him to come out harder against such a strong accusation. jumped on my bandwagon on page 21, seems like he's trying to direct attention away from him. definitely a strong SK candidate, meta says he's posting too much to be wolf but there's astoundingly little content

I wasn't going to stop the discussion, but I still wanted YoshL to know what I thought about his process (namely I don't like the bullying approach since humans under pressure crack too)

I could have yelled at him I guess, I still wanted him to continue the discussion though

I don't feel like I haven't been useful, I don't have many strong convictions but I've been getting information from people and formulating some opinions, though they haven't crystallized into strong reads

regarding the SK thing, I probably didn't handle it well, I thought I'd rather not attract a lot of attention to myself but that backfired tremendously