TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

posts in the TWG subforum do not increase your total postcount (they used to but its easy to see why they don't anymore)
same with TGB and the games forum

Just say it was because of me. Go on and say it, you already did before!

...Or was it Red Blaster?

Who cares, I DARE YOU!@@@@

DOBUuuuuuuu DARE YOooooooou

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

big post its pretty easy to follow though

HIDER STUFF:
Similar to how everyone claims a green-check in the champion's game, everyone should soft who they would be hiding behind if they were the hider. This gives a chance for the real hider to give their info in advance, and, in the event of their death, will give info regarding someone who is most likely scum. ITS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE REAL HIDER DOES NOT LIE ABOUT WHO THEY HIDE BEHIND.

A brief showing of the order of operations of roles
Tracker/vigi chooses their role (Role conversion)
Hider chooses a player to hide behind
Woles/Vigi (if present after n1) choose a target to kill
Detective/Psychologist/Tracker (if present after n1) choose a player to investigate*
Hider dies if hiding behind a killing role (Wolves/vigi) OR if the person they are hiding behind is shot
Other Deaths
Investigative Roles receive results
*It is important to note that the Detective and the Psychologist receive their result AFTER the killing has taken place, making the Detective slightly stronger and the Psychologist slightly weaker.

So, with this in mind, the Hider has some interesting interactions with some of the roles, namely the vigi. By each player hypoing their future "hiding" for each night, this gives town info in the event of the hider's death. This is stronger than each player claiming a green check in the champion's game, because the hider can soft a future red check that gets revealed to town in the event of their death.

Yes, the hider does die if they hide behind the vigilante. But this isn't really a bad thing. Aside from the SK, which is obviously not present in this setup, vigilante is probably the hardest role for scum to successfully fakeclaim (if you don't know why I won't spoil it). So, if the hider dies, and mafia one way or another fakeclaims vigi, fun things will happen, and town will be in a pretty alright position still.

Everyone should, at some point before EOD, claim who they will be hiding behind. Its the best possible plan. If someone wants to be a dumbass and claim I'm rolehunting for this post, go ahead, I could use a good laugh today.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

Just say it was because of me. Go on and say it, you already did before!

...Or was it Red Blaster?

Who cares, I DARE YOU!@@@@

DOBUuuuuuuu DARE YOooooooou

I went to Firehouse instead of KFC get mad

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

If someone wants to be a dumbass and claim I'm rolehunting for this post, go ahead, I could use a good laugh today.

You're rolehunting and I ain't listening to your stupid face.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

STUPID FACE!!!a

[XelNya]

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Here's some logical thinking.

XelNya saying not,giving a f,then posting nonsensical stuff is scummy.

Mr. P coming into thread attempting to make a joke to what seems like insertting self in conversation is scummy, but I like his response me calling his posts boring.

Everyone else is boring.

Do something. Impress me enough to where I want to come back.

Not everything I say is actually nonsense, I posted something to discuss and no one seemed interested.

Just because I don't wanna explain what it is doesn't mean you all can't speculate~

Also as a side note, you've been the most boring active player this game. The fluff is as real with you.

Quite disappointed in the lack of posting. I'm used to waking up to ten plus pages on other forums.

How am I supposed to read you guys.

Also lol at XelNya OMGUS post.

I have no idea what an OMGUS post is though.

The Players of the Storm:
1 - DaBack of Packs - towny feel, one of the only people i notice pushing questions around
2 - Red Blastoise - I want a meta reading Xel seems to have a good one on RB, seems to be trying not sure if it's self pres or rep pres
3 - rzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzr - illogical
4 - storn420 - not enough to read really, just about everyone is acting the same way he is
5 - Tokzic ayy - i always beef with inactivity
6 - Plopadop - could get my vote, plop seems to have put his nose in just enough to be in the big picture but not actually stir the pot at all
7 - just a box that is round - same as plop, not my best town lean for now lol
8 - Clownpiece heidy - def trying harder than last time, maybe cuz Zenith isn't in the way, maybe because he needs to push an actual lynch
9 - XelNya the gif lord - beef with RB? never got any reading on xel's meta last game, so currently comparing here
10 - thesunfan of flags - charu? seems slightly out of character to humor 18 pages of bs lol, but idk sunfan well enough to say that
11 - THE Charu - sunfan? unless someone sheds osme light on his charuposting i think it will be really difficult to get a reading on him, though I'd tend to say this is standard. still digging through the plethora of posts so far lol
12 - Mashiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii<3 - null like tokzic
13 - 27ninjabunnies the lone bunny - seems to have a good handle here, one of my more towny leads but also she gives off the vibe she's good at pulling the wool over eyes.

my biggest focus' for now in no order are sunfan, charu, and bunny

Past beef with ass blaster, that has been put on hold in the interest of being fair.

New one pending if he plays like shit

Also your read of sunfan is pretty correct, he's not playin' standard greggles, but the only reason I have to dislike him is the charu interactions and acting on that this early would be kinda gross imho. I wanna dig deeper, but recent posts make me feel a bit more like back burning him in favor of an inactive this phase just to see how it plays out.

Like I sorta feel I have a good read of how to read greggles but I wanna shove this off as doing something different, so I wanna wait till say later next game day to really poke at it.

Dig that you came in late, but with somethin' to work with tho.

on a related note if stealth rock spikes toxic spikes didn't exist, I would be a lot more inclined to play Pokemon on a more serious level

Play VGC where these hazards are literally laughed at if used. Or play battle spot with Whimsicott the god.

Whimsicott can take a sheer cold and still stall you out, it should be criminal.

[XelNya]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

I went to Firehouse instead of KFC get mad

How the fuck could you.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

Play VGC where these hazards are literally laughed at if used. Or play battle spot with Whimsicott the god.

Whimsicott can take a sheer cold and still stall you out, it should be criminal.

Haven't kept up with competitive recently, if its no longer Hazard-emon, I'll look at it again. Why would you get laughed at for using them? Did they nerf them and I somehow didn't hear about it?

[27ninjabunnies]

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@Xel- OMGUS is Oh my god, you suck. Basically it is when someone votes a person who they think is wolf/mafia, and then that person in return votes the person who voted them or calls them mafia. That's what you basically did in response to me voting and calling you wolf.

However, that post above probably the best post you've made all game. Could you requote the discussion you wanted discussed that no one seemed interested in?

@Greg- if Im the hider im always hiding behind xel/mr p. Depends on which of them I can't get lynched today.

[27ninjabunnies]

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Also @ Xel- the following paragraph is from MafiaWiki

"OMGUS stands for "Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me)!". it is sometimes used as a shorthand to indicate that you are voting for someone primarily because they voted for you.
Why Do This?

It can be used as an "excuse" for a Random Vote near the beginning of the game, or as a retaliation when someone is close to being lynched, as a vent against the frustration (even if the player being voted for has no reasonable chance of being Lynched).

"Occasionally a Scum player will use it to cover a strategic vote, feigning outrage to get someone else closer to a lynch."

I'm not getting voted cause im too good to get voted...but just keep in mind...ya know..future references...that sort of thing....

[27ninjabunnies]

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I had an interesting interaction with my professor today.

So my professor hands me back my exam, and I got a really good grade on it. Then in front of the entire class from across the room goes, "I have no idea how you got that grade", and I'm like. Wait what do you mean? And he told me that I never pay attention in class, and all I do is play some card game (hearthstone) and surf the web (mostly mafia forum games). And well, I do. Lol but I do pay attention. And I study. And i felt he had no right to call me out in class like that.

And then, Well everyone in class was quiet, and it was awkward, so I looked at him like he was dumb and then go "I very well damn do pay attention in class" Which everyone laughed at cause it came out in a jumbled mess. And then he's like, I sit next to you during presentation time, you dont take notes of the student presentations and you never make eye contact when I present, so I told him I'm very good at listening, and I take notes during his presentations auditorily. I dont have to make eye contact.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

The worst.

[XelNya]

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Haven't kept up with competitive recently, if its no longer Hazard-emon, I'll look at it again. Why would you get laughed at for using them? Did they nerf them and I somehow didn't hear about it?

In doubles hazatds are arguably useless. They're really good in singles though. Its a difference in formats really.

@Xel- OMGUS is Oh my god, you suck. Basically it is when someone votes a person who they think is wolf/mafia, and then that person in return votes the person who voted them or calls them mafia. That's what you basically did in response to me voting and calling you wolf.

However, that post above probably the best post you've made all game. Could you requote the discussion you wanted discussed that no one seemed interested in?

@Greg- if Im the hider im always hiding behind xel/mr p. Depends on which of them I can't get lynched today.

Eh if that is how you wanna see it, I guess.

That's a shame though.

[27ninjabunnies]

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I thought I was good at FFR. Then I almost failed a song. RIP

[_Zenith_]

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Getting a vote count ready for all of you. God damn you all for 400+ posts already