What's happening in here?

[TC_Halogen]

Re: What's happening in here?

You don't need to tell them that nothing is going on or that things will go on in the future. You just need to involve them. "Hey, we want your input." and then build off of that.

Fair enough, but that still involves one key thing that's been missing for a while.

I don't think I or any other users need to keep mentioning the lack of communication and that's beating a dead horse at this point. It's time to take steps in the direction of repairing these issues.

EDIT: synth you're breaking forum rules stop triple posting you're going too fast aaaaaaaaaa

[psychoangel691]

Re: What's happening in here?

I was told by a staffed member that I most likely would never be able to be a part of staff here on FFR due to my "dishonorable discharge" from the Event Staff.

I don't know who said this but that's not really true. There's been plenty of staff that have made mistakes, no one's perfect. Just a matter of proving yourself moreso.

[hi19hi19]

Re: What's happening in here?

the site operated quite well without this and it doesn't need money infused into it

Wait so you are saying the site has been operating "quite well" since it came back online? I would dispute that...


Just because we could have done a lot better with a volunteer system doesn't change the fact that, with purely volunteers, the site has never been even a tenth as busy as it reached when there was money involved.

[_Zenith_]

Re: What's happening in here?

Can you bring me up to speed on what happened here?

The Event Staff was hosting a Scavenger Hunt (For Halloween iirc) and due to my inactivity within the chat, I never saw the confirmation that the images were distributed within the site and I had caught one and mentioned it in Profile Chat with Zageron there.

It was entirely my own fault.

My level of inactivity was growing too sadly which never helps in a staff position.

[TC_Halogen]

Re: What's happening in here?

I don't know who said this but that's not really true. There's been plenty of staff that have made mistakes, no one's perfect. Just a matter of proving yourself moreso.

ahaha...

justin_ator can vouch for this since he was the target for reasons that I cannot remember other than the fact that I was a part of a toxic Skype group and did things I shouldn't have, but I got an initial one year ban (turned into 10 days to my surprise) for being completely ridiculous. I think Dossar also got banned for that same thing, haha.

If you can prove yourself to be a useful asset and are generally responsible, stupidity like that can generally be overlooked. I definitely regret being that immature, but I mean... I certainly redeemed myself afterward with everything else.

[Synthlight]

Re: What's happening in here?

EDIT: synth you're breaking forum rules stop triple posting you're going too fast aaaaaaaaaa

I have to make up for the time I am not around!!!!

[psychoangel691]

Re: What's happening in here?

Can you bring me up to speed on what happened here?

He was brought on to the team on a trial basis. Prior to joining the team I let people know what the expectations are. During the time on the team he was not active in our group where we communicate and wasn't actively engaging in doing anything with the team. Then he disclosed a location for a hunt we were doing during Halloween last year.

That's the quick version.

Edit: I also removed another member who became inactive due to life things and added on a new person. The person removed knows that they're welcome back if things change.

[Synthlight]

Re: What's happening in here?

Then he disclosed a location for a hunt we were doing during Halloween last year. That's the quick version.

(read all the responses regarding this situation) Yeah, people get stupid sometimes. It happens to me also. I passed on a very militant like style of protection here at the site that was leftover from the commercial days. It's good in general to "protect the brand" but maybe the sentences are a little harsh? (maybe I am ignorant?). We now have a much better method for backups than we have had in the past, which means we can always roll back if needed. I would feel differently if 10-15 salaries depended on the success of the site.

[psychoangel691]

Re: What's happening in here?

(read all the responses regarding this situation) Yeah, people get stupid sometimes. It happens to me also. I passed on a very militant like style of protection here at the site that was leftover from the commercial days. It's good in general to "protect the brand" but maybe the sentences are a little harsh? (maybe I am ignorant?). We now have a much better method for backups than we have had in the past, which means we can always roll back if needed. I would feel differently if 10-15 salaries depended on the success of the site.

It wasn't just about disclosing the location, he wasn't actively engaging in the group. Then there was a lot of stuff that followed that I'm not going to get into in the forums.

[hi19hi19]

Re: What's happening in here?

(read all the responses regarding this situation) Yeah, people get stupid sometimes. It happens to me also. I passed on a very militant like style of protection here at the site that was leftover from the commercial days. It's good in general to "protect the brand" but maybe the sentences are a little harsh? (maybe I am ignorant?). We now have a much better method for backups than we have had in the past, which means we can always roll back if needed. I would feel differently if 10-15 salaries depended on the success of the site.

We are operating as if there are 10 salaried positions contributing to the site.



But there aren't.



Am I really the only person who sees the massive disconnect here?

[hi19hi19]

Re: What's happening in here?

(read all the responses regarding this situation) Yeah, people get stupid sometimes. It happens to me also. I passed on a very militant like style of protection here at the site that was leftover from the commercial days. It's good in general to "protect the brand" but maybe the sentences are a little harsh? (maybe I am ignorant?). We now have a much better method for backups than we have had in the past, which means we can always roll back if needed. I would feel differently if 10-15 salaries depended on the success of the site.

From the mouth of the man himself:
The site is operating as if there are 10 salaried positions contributing to development and community coordination.



But there aren't.



Am I really the only person who sees the massive disconnect here?

[_Zenith_]

Re: What's happening in here?

It wasn't just about disclosing the location, he wasn't actively engaging in the group. Then there was a lot of stuff that followed that I'm not going to get into in the forums.

Let's just kill off the topic by stating it got pretty teenage angst-y on my end of things after all was said and done.

I very much regret those things but it's a relieving notion to see that with time comes possible redemption.

/moving on to ffr growth/

[justin_ator]

Re: What's happening in here?

/moving on to ffr growth/

This is actually why I didn't post my reply to AJ's post about myself and the Skype group... haha. Somewhat relevant but not enough so to derail that direction.

I did dumb stuff, staff did dumb stuff, we all did dumb stuff. But behind all that dumb stuff I did want to help the site and felt like my contributions were being either ignored or downplayed to the point that I felt like I shouldn't really bother making suggestions anymore, which lead to my inactivity here ultimately.

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: What's happening in here?

so did anyone figure out what the point of the batch is yet or is it one of those things that's just done because that's how it's always been done and nobody stops to think about it despite it being ridiculously stupid and inefficient

[Synthlight]

Re: What's happening in here?

From the mouth of the man himself:
The site is operating as if there are 10 salaried positions contributing to development and community coordination.

That doesn't mean we need salaried positions, just that it is operating as such. Even if we were to put up ads right now, we are looking at about $5/month per staff member. Also, marking songs as "legacy" means nothing from a legal standpoint. Unless something has changed, when labels or artists gave us permission to use their music in our game, they gave us permission. There were no gotcha's regarding advertising and permission. Has this changed?

Would all of you really want lots of added stress that comes from a commercial operation with very little cash flow? We would need to see something on the level of about 3000 concurrent users to hit a cash flow level that would be respectable.