High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

[FF_rules]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

I also wonder about the difference between skill, perception, and intellect.

I have the worst memory in the world; I can forget someone's name 50 times and be told their name 50 times (I spent a good 2 months forgetting someone's name at work but thankfully we have name tags). I just can't remember some times; (today I ran across a friend I socialize with almost ever week, we haven't seen each other in about 3 months and I completely forgot who he was. I have to make educated guesses and play my words carefully until he gives me enough hints that I either remember or I apologize for the shitty memory I have)

That said when it comes to things that don't require memory, say mental computation, I can basically do it on a dime after a little bit of practice. This also leads to problems in conversations because I tend to read between the line too much; more so I speak in tangents without realizing. I've been told I haven't been trying to remember someone's name enough; and they're probably right in this regard, I could write someone's name down on a photo of them and say their name and look at that photo every few hours while I'm at home (but that's creepy and way too much work). Or maybe it's purely a mental issue; maybe I've just disconnected myself mentally and I don't remember names for some kind of contrived convenience. (My memory is also horrible for just remembering a lot of facts; one of the reasons I decided to drop from being a medical major -way too much stress in my life)

[benguino]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

Idk as long as you get above a 3.0 you're fine. don't need to be an overachiever!!

Well, unless you're pursuing a higher level of education at a competitive educational institution (i.e. a high school student applying a college, or an undergrad apply to grad/med/law/etc school). Although GPA isn't the only thing they look at, it still holds some weight.

honestly? it works for my cousin and I and we are senior chem majors...


we get a bottle of a wine and just get a nice buzz. it makes the work not seem too bad.... i bust shit out when it happens, but if i'm not drinking my motivation and drive is so below the worst levels of low.


i have that mentality that if i don't need to do the homework to understand the material why should i have to do it... then i wind up losing 10-15 points on my final grade and voila! a shitty grade. =/


its especially hard in the class i have to take towards my bio minor since all biology classes are super boring and easy and don't even need a teacher any more since powerpoint took over. i'm finishing that minor up this semester with microbio.... it shouldn't be this awful but it is. i haven't even done anything for that class but its just a repetition of general biology still and we've been at it for 3 weeks. so yea i'm not worried.

When I drink while studying, I have a hard time finding the line between buzzed and too buzzed and hence sleepy. lol.

Usually I am good for about 30 minutes but then I keep drinking because oops and then I just give up studying altogether.

I did this a few times when it came to fiction writing last semester. The hardest part is starting...it's hard to get that creative spark going. Having a apple/strawberry ale/cider or two and getting a little bit buzzed helped me to think outside the box and come up with ideas. Some of those ideas may have been silly, not thought out, or just plain stupid, but formulating ideas and transferring them to paper is the first step.

I have the worst memory in the world; I can forget someone's name 50 times and be told their name 50 times (I spent a good 2 months forgetting someone's name at work but thankfully we have name tags). I just can't remember some times; (today I ran across a friend I socialize with almost ever week, we haven't seen each other in about 3 months and I completely forgot who he was. I have to make educated guesses and play my words carefully until he gives me enough hints that I either remember or I apologize for the shitty memory I have)

That said when it comes to things that don't require memory, say mental computation, I can basically do it on a dime after a little bit of practice. This also leads to problems in conversations because I tend to read between the line too much; more so I speak in tangents without realizing. I've been told I haven't been trying to remember someone's name enough; and they're probably right in this regard, I could write someone's name down on a photo of them and say their name and look at that photo every few hours while I'm at home (but that's creepy and way too much work). Or maybe it's purely a mental issue; maybe I've just disconnected myself mentally and I don't remember names for some kind of contrived convenience. (My memory is also horrible for just remembering a lot of facts; one of the reasons I decided to drop from being a medical major -way too much stress in my life)

Yeah, I can relate. I have memory issues myself...especially when it comes to names for some reason.

A few days, at a game board night at my uni, I embarrassed myself when I had to count my total number of game pieces on the board (that satisfied an adjacency condition) because the board was so cluttered that I forgot which things I already counted, so I had to start over my counting like three times.

[LordCarlos]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

Well, unless you're pursuing a higher level of education at a competitive educational institution (i.e. a high school student applying a college, or an undergrad apply to grad/med/law/etc school). Although GPA isn't the only thing they look at, it still holds some weight.

Even a bare 3.0 is acceptable to most institutions and employers if you have other nice credentials such as lots of sports, extracurriculars, classes on the side, maybe an cool internship or something impressive that you did.

The only thing that's really bad is under 3.0 because that's a huge cutoff line for a lot of employers and schools, and they auto-fail your application. The difference between 2.9 and 3.0 is a big deal.

[MarcusHawkins]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

Even a bare 3.0 is acceptable to most institutions and employers if you have other nice credentials such as lots of sports, extracurriculars, classes on the side, maybe an cool internship or something impressive that you did.

The only thing that's really bad is under 3.0 because that's a huge cutoff line for a lot of employers and schools, and they auto-fail your application. The difference between 2.9 and 3.0 is a big deal.

I think 3.5 would be a more reasonable GPA to look at.
That's the mark for the Honor Roll at my school district, at least!

[benguino]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

The only thing that's really bad is under 3.0 because that's a huge cutoff line for a lot of employers and schools, and they auto-fail your application. The difference between 2.9 and 3.0 is a big deal.

Yeah, you have a good point here. This is more so along the lines of the idea that when humans see numbers, we put more focus on the significant digits and disregard less-significant digits, sometimes at the expense of not properly rounding in our mind (that's why you have the notion of psychological pricing so everything is $X.99 pretty much).

[FoJaR]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

get over yourself and work.

once you get a job, it doesnt matter how smart you are, at least 50% of it will be mind numbing shit that someone has to do and that someone will be you. better get used to it now.

believe it or not, the ability to do mind numbing work efficiently is probably the most valuable skill you can learn, period.

[rayword45]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

This is my exact problem right now. Liyerally, right this second, I should be finishing an ELA paper that would take 15 min tops, but instead I'm dancing to The Smiths and dancing in a futile attempt to cure these Valentines blues.

My affluent life sucks.

[FoJaR]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

get over yourself and work.

once you get a job, it doesnt matter how smart you are, at least 50% of it will be mind numbing shit that someone has to do and that someone will be you. better get used to it now.

believe it or not, the ability to do mind numbing work efficiently is probably the most valuable skill you can learn, period.

applicable repost

[FoJaR]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

honestly for every minute i spend doing the interesting difficult things that look good when asking for raises, that look good on resumes etc, i spend probably three minutes doing stuff that just takes time, or stuff that just needs to be done and isn't particularly interesting.

the faster i get that stuff done, the more time i have to spend on things that maybe arent essential, but are interesting and reflect well on me. also, being able to crank out the necessary stuff looks good all on its own. depending on what you go into, you can make a good career just by being fast and efficient at what you do.

it doesnt matter how smart you think you are. you can have a 20 int, doesnt matter at all if your wis is in the gutter. any hard worker can be successful. take this +4 to wis post at face value and do some goddamn hard work.

[FoJaR]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

places like a critical thinking section of a video game forum are going to self-select for people with ADHD tendencies, since it's very likely that posting here in itself is an act of distraction for you

places like a critical thinking section of a video game that breaks up levels into bite-sized, ADHD-friendly events is doubly going to do this

if you indeed have ADHD tendencies you need to understand what those tendencies actually are -- they're chronic understimulation; distraction is a side effect of understimulation.

instead of asking "what will motivate me?" ask "what stimulates me?" and "what don't I find stimulating?" -- try to be as specific as possible.

this is maybe the best post.

[BrokenKeysEverywhere]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

I sure can relate, Macchabee. And here's a fun solution:
Bets. That's the answer.
Bet your peers that if you finish a task you get their 20-200 (pounds, dollars, yuan, rupees, yen. What ever currency you have per peer), this way you'll be willing to try harder, and so will your peers. And if you fail, you lose 20-200. Or you can get them to do better things, like get them to eat bread from the floor (if other way around, you're in danger and gotta try harder or hide). Though if everyone does fine, then everyone's safe.

I haven't tried this solution, but I sure would do my work if my wallet or health was in danger.

[choof]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

that's illegal lol

[Red Blaster]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

I haven't tried this solution, but I sure would do my work if my wallet or health was in danger.

Wait..what?

[choof]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

he's 15, give him a brek

[Funnygurl555]

Re: High-Level Thinker, Low-Level Student

idk i just think about my parents and how screwing up school would waste their efforts

i dunno. really though, you need to set goals. try to visualize your future so you know what you need to get there

"intelligence" helps you do well in school, but there's a ton of people who aren't that intelligent but do well in school because they're determined